d_striker Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Looking at the Jan 2017 BOD minutes, it appears that increasing the magazine capacity of Carry Optics will be in effect soon. What is the new capacity going to be? 15 rounds or 140mm mag length? Edited January 29, 2017 by d_striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, d_striker said: Looking at the Jan 2017 BOD minutes, it appears that increasing the magazine capacity of Carry Optics will be in effect soon. What is the new capacity going to be? 15 rounds of 140mm mag length? However many you can stuff in a 140mm mag will be the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, GrumpyOne said: However many you can stuff in a 140mm mag will be the limit. Oh yeah. I forgot that CO already allowed 140mm mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Technically, the limit is 141.25 mm. Appendix D7, #8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I preferred the style of "Production Optics" vs. "Limited Optics." 10 rounds made everything equal everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanL Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Glock will sell a MOS gun today because of this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, DanL said: Glock will sell a MOS gun today because of this change. To me, actually. Moving from my G19 MOS to a G17 MOS. Will sell the G19 MOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, mreed911 said: To me, actually. Moving from my G19 MOS to a G17 MOS. Will sell the G19 MOS. Why not a Glock 34 MOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, RaylanGivens said: Why not a Glock 34 MOS? It's heavier, longer (meaning more momentum on lateral swings to targets and a longer draw-to-clear-holster) and the increased sight radius is worthless on an MOS pistol. I'd prefer to stay with my 19 but my grip with extended mags is such that I'd be putting pressure on the mag with my pinky which can affect feed/function, etc. The 17 will be a better all-around MOS platform for me. If I were using suppressor-height sights to co-witness or needed the slight bump in velocity it might be worth it. Not to mention the 34 is $100 more than the 17. For $477 + tax I can't go wrong. Edited January 30, 2017 by mreed911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 19 minutes ago, mreed911 said: It's heavier, longer (meaning more momentum on lateral swings to targets and a longer draw-to-clear-holster) and the increased sight radius is worthless on an MOS pistol. I'd prefer to stay with my 19 but my grip with extended mags is such that I'd be putting pressure on the mag with my pinky which can affect feed/function, etc. The 17 will be a better all-around MOS platform for me. If I were using suppressor-height sights to co-witness or needed the slight bump in velocity it might be worth it. Not to mention the 34 is $100 more than the 17. For $477 + tax I can't go wrong. All good points... I'm still thinking in iron-sights mode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanL Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) I had no real intentions of ever trying CO, especially with the 10 rd limit but this changes everything. I'm actually considering the 19 for exactly the reasons stated above also. Gonna do a couple of checks on my iron sighted 17/19 and decide from there. Edited January 30, 2017 by DanL Wrong abbreviation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaJim Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Was considering CO as a winter time Division. You know, shooting in the cold and wet would be nicer not to have to hit a safety and expose my Limited to the elements. Supposedly using an optic can increase accuracy when swapping back to irons etc....could be a wives tale. Then this mag capacity change. Last night a post for sale shows up on a local site for a barely used (200rd) Core with 5 mags 3 in package still , 450 bucks. I'm picking it up tomorrow. I already have a Pro with all the gear. Gonna sell the mags to pay for half an optic. Guess I didn't need a reason.....just a teeny push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polymerfeelsweirdman Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 22 hours ago, mreed911 said: I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I preferred the style of "Production Optics" vs. "Limited Optics." 10 rounds made everything equal everywhere. open minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, polymerfeelsweirdman said: open minor It's really a combo of Limited, Production, and Open... -Stage planning will be pretty much same as Limited. 23 rounds may eliminate stages where you have to do two reloads though. -Red dot is the only tie to Open, and even then it's slide mounted as opposed to frame mounted. -And of course the Production Gun List and minor scoring. Edited January 31, 2017 by d_striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcalvert Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Like this, thinking this is going to make this division even more popular and fun to shoot. dcalvert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 i've gotten quite a few texts and emails about this divisions, guns and set up since they changed the capacity. before that everyone thought CO was lame but a few people with bad eyes. now it seems to be considered "fun". i'll be shooting CO this weekend in texarkana with my new 23 round set up, so we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think Stoeger nailed it on one of his add pages. "You thought Carry Optics was for old guys that just wanted to put a dot on their production guns only to reload every time they move. Well, you were wrong, Carry Optics is now for poor people that don't have the scratch for a proper open gun." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 28 minutes ago, IHAVEGAS said: I think Stoeger nailed it on one of his add pages. "You thought Carry Optics was for old guys that just wanted to put a dot on their production guns only to reload every time they move. Well, you were wrong, Carry Optics is now for poor people that don't have the scratch for a proper open gun." Yep, I hate being poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 That email really resonated with the 2% of USPSA shooters. I nearly whizzed myself when seeing it last night. But aren't you an old dude in God's Waiting Room Z? Sorry couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, SCTaylor said: That email really resonated with the 2% of USPSA shooters. I nearly whizzed myself when seeing it last night. But aren't you an old dude in God's Waiting Room Z? Sorry couldn't resist. Yep, I will be a senior by the time I fire my first shot at CO Nats. I no longer buy green bananas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 4 hours ago, rowdyb said: i've gotten quite a few texts and emails about this divisions, guns and set up since they changed the capacity. before that everyone thought CO was lame but a few people with bad eyes. now it seems to be considered "fun". i'll be shooting CO this weekend in texarkana with my new 23 round set up, so we'll see. Just imagine how popular Production would be if it also ditched the ten round limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Southpaw said: Just imagine how popular Production would be if it also ditched the ten round limit They should just make having a dot optional. The only problem with that is Production would go the way of Revo and L10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm just excited to think about shooting my first match with RFPO - can't be far off, right, since we're harmonizing rules and making things cheaper and easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 10 hours ago, d_striker said: They should just make having a dot optional. The only problem with that is Production would go the way of Revo and L10. 10 hours ago, mreed911 said: I'm just excited to think about shooting my first match with RFPO - can't be far off, right, since we're harmonizing rules and making things cheaper and easier? Have either of you up to this point shot CO? You both seem to have opinions about it, just wondering? IF you have not shot it in the past, do you intend to shoot CO in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, zhunter said: Have either of you up to this point shot CO? You both seem to have opinions about it, just wondering? IF you have not shot it in the past, do you intend to shoot CO in the future? I have. Not enough to be classified yet, but yes. I just started this month (only to see the rules change). My new 140mm mags are on order - due tomorrow. I've also shot RFPO in non-sanctioned steel challenge matches (no scores reported) and the RFPO comment above was, of course, a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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