Neomet Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Thank you Torgeir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemmo Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 And btw, at the European Rifle Championship in Hungary, there was a local rule on the range that muzzle could not point over the berm for safety reasons. The Entire match was rifle parallel starting position and at no times could the barrel point over the berms, which at times were ridiculously low, almost in line with the targets. We practiced for months to start and move with our rifles never pointing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 7 hours ago, slemmo said: And btw, at the European Rifle Championship in Hungary, there was a local rule on the range that muzzle could not point over the berm for safety reasons. The Entire match was rifle parallel starting position and at no times could the barrel point over the berms, which at times were ridiculously low, almost in line with the targets. We practiced for months to start and move with our rifles never pointing up. IPSC ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemmo Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Hmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, Sarge said: Port arms definition is left vague as some ranges have rules about muzzle above berm = DQ If port arms had to be muzzle high up around your chin or nose, then some clubs would not allow PCC. Can you quote that rule? I'm having trouble finding that in the book. It's an opinion about the definition about port arms and a statement about rules some ranges have. From best practices: Start Positions • Default/normal start position: Facing downrange, carbine held in both hands, stock on belt or shouldered, muzzle downrange. Fingers will be out of the trigger guard, and the safety must be applied if the carbine is loaded. This equates to either “port arms” or “low ready”. NO uprange starts while holding the carbine! • Muzzle downrange means generally downrange, and does not have to be directly horizontal, pointing at the backstop, unless the WSB specifies it as such . • At ranges where muzzle direction is specified by the range(not the USPSA club) then that restriction must be followed . • Ultimately, the start position should be up to the stage designer, but must be clearly stated and able to be safely assumed by the competitor. Edited March 13, 2017 by CZ85Combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, CZ85Combat said: It's an opinion about the definition about port arms and a statement about rules some ranges have. From best practices: Start Positions • Default/normal start position: Facing downrange, carbine held in both hands, stock on belt or shouldered, muzzle downrange. Fingers will be out of the trigger guard, and the safety must be applied if the carbine is loaded. This equates to either “port arms” or “low ready”. NO uprange starts while holding the carbine! I still don't see anything about pointing over a berm being a DQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Sarge said: I still don't see anything about pointing over a berm being a DQ check the edited post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If you were taught Port Arms, this is what you were taught in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 6 hours ago, rowdyb said: If you were taught Port Arms, this is what you were taught in my experience. Yep. This is why clarification is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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