postalpainmaker Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Does any one have a pet load for 200gr lead SWC 45ACP. I'm going to be using hornady projectiles. I have lots of load data but asking for accurate loads you guys have had success with. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DagoRed Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 With what powder? I use a 200 bayou SWC over 4.2g Nitro 100NF. 4.1 would still make power easily. Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postalpainmaker Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 I want to use Win231 as I have had good luck with it in 230gr FMJ. I also have lots of titegroup on hand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Personally, I'd use neither. Your best performers are going to be e3, Clay Dot, Clays, WST and Competition. If you are looking for a softer feel, try American Select. My bullseye load is RP case, WLP primer, 3.4gr Alliant e3 and a Dardas 200gr LSWC. That load goes an average of 730fps and gives SDs in the under 6.0 range. It is super clean, really accurate (but that is due in part to the bullet) and has no temperature sensitivity. It meters wonderfully, and you can buy it in 8lb containers for $140. What's not to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postalpainmaker Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 I have titegroup, hs6, autocomp, bullseye, and cfe pistol on hand as well as the Win231. Any suggestions ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Use the Bullseye. TiteGroup is dirty and burn hot. Plus it smokes like the devil with lubed lead bullets. Everything else you have is too slow for mild target loads. 3.5 gr to 4.0 gr will give you velocities between 725 and 800 fps. Most bullseye shooters using Bullseye load between 3.5 and 3.7 gr for iron sights and 3.7 and higher if they have a slide mounted rail and UltraDot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postalpainmaker Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Use the Bullseye. TiteGroup is dirty and burn hot. Plus it smokes like the devil with lubed lead bullets. Everything else you have is too slow for mild target loads. 3.5 gr to 4.0 gr will give you velocities between 725 and 800 fps. Most bullseye shooters using Bullseye load between 3.5 and 3.7 gr for iron sights and 3.7 and higher if they have a slide mounted rail and UltraDot.Thanks for the reply. I'll try some bullseye next. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGinIdaho Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 4.5 of N310, win primer, 200lswc, 1.250 OAL It has been very accurate and consistent with all cast and the few coated bullets I've tried. I haven't tried it with any of the swaged bullets. I believe Hornady's lead are swaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Beware of N310. It is a wonderful powder for the Summer. However, it is so temperature sensitive that at 32 degrees it barely cycles the slide. It is what I used to use before switching to e3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postalpainmaker Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Beware of N310. It is a wonderful powder for the Summer. However, it is so temperature sensitive that at 32 degrees it barely cycles the slide. It is what I used to use before switching to e3.Noted. ThanksSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Clays, of the Australian variety, haven't tried the Canadian yet. Edited December 8, 2016 by Steve RA Download didn't work as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postalpainmaker Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Clays, of the Australian variety, haven't tried the Canadian yet. Very nice Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGinIdaho Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 4 hours ago, zzt said: Beware of N310. It is a wonderful powder for the Summer. However, it is so temperature sensitive that at 32 degrees it barely cycles the slide. It is what I used to use before switching to e3. Interestng i've used this load for over a decade without issue. I shoot all year, well over 100deg to Below zero temps, with an 18 1/2lb recoil spring in a 5"gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 RG, then you were using a lot hotter load, not a bullseye load with a 14lb spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGinIdaho Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, zzt said: RG, then you were using a lot hotter load, not a bullseye load with a 14lb spring. Just checked my data. Lowest temp chrono'ed; 40F 856fps avg for 10 rounds, SD 9!, 4.5gr N310, WLP, 200 LaserCast LSWC, 1.250 OAL, Mixed Brass, 5" Stainless Gold Match, 2500ft elev I run 18.5 lb springs in my 5" guns, I just like the way the gun feels and the sights track. I like the gun to feel snappy in my hand. My notes show loads from 4.2gr - 4.6gr of N310 in 4" and 5" guns. 92F gave me 882fps, SD 10, 2900ft elev Earliest note are from 2003. So 13yrs with this load. I have some January accuracy notes at 5000ft elev, but no chrono data. No notes of any function issues. I've got notes for 8 1911's during the time frame with the same load. 4.6 at 45F gave me 912 from a 5" colt at 2900ft elev I also like aa5 and 231 with the 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) 200 gr LSWC @1.250 Edited December 9, 2016 by Steve RA additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 RG, I thought as much. That is similar to the Wilson load, and supposedly superb. Since VV's data shows 4.0gr as the max load for 45, I never went above it. My fav load for a long time was RP brass, WLP, 4.05gr e3, 200gr LSWC. It was good for 780fps with an SD of 7.78. I didn't record the temp for that string, but it was late spring. Later at 72 degrees, the same load produced 807fps. In the summer it got really hot and you could tell the difference in recoil. My bullseye load was the same except 3.8gr N310. It went from 767fps @ 72 to 741 @ 60 to 733 @ 56 to 705 @ 40 to not functioning the gun at 29-30. I gave up for it for bullseye shooting for that very reason. So did several others at the club. I had to go to Clay Dot for winter shooting, because I was hoarding my e3 for 40sw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrguar Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I use around 6.0 of AA5 for 200 LSWC Federal 150's at 1.125 - always makes major - shoots clean soft... use a Chrono for you particular firearm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGinIdaho Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 zzT You are correct about that being the "Wilson load", one of the most accurate and consistent loads I've ever tried. My data comes from mixed brass and thrown charges. If I segregate the brass the sd's shrink even with charges thrown on the Dillon. I've always worked the load up to about 850fps in a five inch and stopped there. I had some VV data which I believe listed 4.2 as max and 850ish from a five inch gun. The top end of the load range must agree with the power's burn rate hence the consistency Myself and others have experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlm Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 200 gr swc with 4.1 grs of Clays Austr. OAL is 1.245-1.250 pf 172 out of a 5' 1911 45ACP 200 gr swc with 5.3 grs of HP_38 at OAL of 1.245-1.250 pf 172 out of a 5' 1911 45ACP Both loads work in 4 of my 1911 45ACP pistols. Works for me. Thanks, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruleyoutoo1911 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 4.6 gr Titegroup 4.0 gr Clays 200 gr SWC Bear Creek Both Loaded at 1.235 (My chamber is a tad short) Both are excellent out of my 1911s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postalpainmaker Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 4.6 gr Titegroup 4.0 gr Clays 200 gr SWC Bear Creek Both Loaded at 1.235 (My chamber is a tad short) Both are excellent out of my 1911s[emoji106]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acpie360 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 On 12/8/2016 at 5:22 AM, postalpainmaker said: I want to use Win231 as I have had good luck with it in 230gr FMJ. This is my load test data on SA 1911 Loaded (5" barrel). The bullet is Missouri Bullet Company's HiTek coated 200gn SWC (with lube ring). The actual weight of the bullet is 199.1gn with 0.38 standard deviation. Powder Win231(gn) 5.4 Bullet MB SWC(gn) 199.1 COL 1.24" String Velocity (fps) 1 933.0 Average 872.3 2 887.1 High 933.0 3 838.1 Low 805.7 4 883.1 Sd 34.5 5 805.7 PF 173.7 6 869.0 7 876.9 8 886.8 9 892.1 10 850.7 Powder Win231(gn) 5.2 Bullet MB SWC(gn) 199.1 COL 1.24" String Velocity (fps) 1 838.8 Average 838.8 2 892.1 High 892.1 3 830.5 Low 797.9 4 834.4 Sd 31.8 5 797.9 PF 167.0 6 824.8 7 871.8 8 810.5 9 877.9 10 808.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postalpainmaker Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 This is my load test data on SA 1911 Loaded (5" barrel). The bullet is Missouri Bullet Company's HiTek coated 200gn SWC (with lube ring). The actual weight of the bullet is 199.1gn with 0.38 standard deviation.Powder Win231(gn) 5.4 Bullet MB SWC(gn) 199.1 COL 1.24" String Velocity (fps) 1 933.0 Average 872.32 887.1 High 933.03 838.1 Low 805.74 883.1 Sd 34.55 805.7 PF 173.76 869.0 7 876.9 8 886.8 9 892.1 10 850.7 Powder Win231(gn) 5.2 Bullet MB SWC(gn) 199.1 COL 1.24" String Velocity (fps) 1 838.8 Average 838.82 892.1 High 892.13 830.5 Low 797.94 834.4 Sd 31.85 797.9 PF 167.06 824.8 7 871.8 8 810.5 9 877.9 10 808.9 Great info thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOA1911 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 57K, I have both Clays and Competition, and I may try the later in a few weeks when I get a chance to get back into my reloading room. I will be using an SNS 200 gr. Hi-Tek coated bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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