anilson Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 If I only had 3k i would buy a good used custom. We often have guns we take in trade that run in the 3k zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 A new Czechmate will run you around the $3K US mark. This is what I would get regardless as they are 100% reliable out of the box. Most custom guns are not, and the smith always says it needs 5-6K rounds for a breaking period, lol. I have not had one jam with mine since I owned it. Highly recommended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 30 minutes ago, abb1 said: A new Czechmate will run you around the $3K US mark. This is what I would get regardless as they are 100% reliable out of the box. Most custom guns are not, and the smith always says it needs 5-6K rounds for a breaking period, lol. I have not had one jam with mine since I owned it. Highly recommended! That's a new one for me. Who, exactly, specifies that? I've heard anywhere from a few hundred to a thousand (for a gun that wasn't lapped, so you're doing the lapping), but 5-6K for "break-in" (as opposed to "it'll be real smooth by 5-6K)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, teros135 said: That's a new one for me. Who, exactly, specifies that? I've heard anywhere from a few hundred to a thousand (for a gun that wasn't lapped, so you're doing the lapping), but 5-6K for "break-in" (as opposed to "it'll be real smooth by 5-6K)? That is what I heard from someone that bought a CK gun, lol, they told him that it needed 5-6K rounds to be broken in. This one to be exact : http://magnussportsusa.com/product/ck-arms-open-steel-grip-38super-or-9mm/ ....as he now has it up for sale in a forum I have owned a Caspian 1911 years back which I had custom built and it had a few issues. They told me that the gun needed to be broken in as it was built with tight tolerances, but did not give a count. I ended up getting it working by using a different recoil spring and measuring each round, but even then, it was not 100%, as the odd round would hang. Everyone has different experiences, those are mine. To me, a competition gun MUST be 100%, as one malfunction can cost you! Edited December 10, 2016 by abb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotrodMachinegun Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I went the used route but I was always planning on doing that. I think I would go the cz checkmate way because I'm familiar with the feel of the gun. I ended up buying an old custom built sti open gun for $900 with three big sticks. It looks like he'll but it runs like it too so it got me in the game until I decide which gun I really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullets Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 If it's an out of the box gun you are looking for I would go with aren't sti matchmaster. I like the smaller lighter guns. I haven't felt much difference in recoil between the full size and shorties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr88 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 No question. Save a little more and call Adam at Atlas Gunworks. You will glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightfighter363 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3K. get a trubor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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