cbrussell Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Does anyone have any experience with A-Plus Victory Products Auto 40 Debuldge machine? I currently have a Case-Pro which has served me well; I have been thinking of "automating" but wonder how this machine stacked up? Does it roll the cartridge rim like the Case-Pro? Is it just an automated push through die? Link - http://www.aplusvictoryproducts.com/ On another subject; what is the best method to automate the Case-Pro? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 It is not possible to say what is inside, but I guess some roll dies, since it is adjustable. However, 60 rounds per minute is a burst rate, there is no way on Earth Dillon case feeder will ever support such a rate. My Case Pro easily outruns the feeder at 50 rounds per minute. To make sure the feeder can keep up you need to go at 35-40 rounds per minute. I do not see a speed control there, which is a concern to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) Do you have a link to what it is doing? If they copied a Scharch and built it as well, it could be a "winner". Edited October 9, 2016 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 "jmorris," that is my problem. I can't seem to figure out if they are truely roll sizing or just automating a push through die. Do you know if Scharch is still selling their resized? How,do you recommend automating the Case-Pro 100? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 IIRC TopBrass were the last to have any Scharch equipment but I don't think they offer anything now. This is how I automated my case pro. If it's an automated push through sizer that can be done pretty cheap too. This is a Lee single stage I setup for bullet sizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3P_Guy Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Since they have a 9mm version "coming soon" I would have to imagine that it is a roll sizing type setup they are currently using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I emailed the company, they stated it was a roll-sizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Did you get any information that would indicate how it works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 No, they were pretty vague about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Any update on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoR Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 This machine looks nice and FAST, 3.600rph is a lot!If it is only a push-through die, I wouldn't buy it. But if it is a roll sizer, I'd be all over it! Too bad it is only .40 cal and not convertible to 9mm! On another subject; what is the best method to automate the Case-Pro? Thanks.AFAIK, the only commercial option you have is a PW autodrive, but you'd be looking at U$D 1.000! There are plenty DIY automations both in YouTube and this forum, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) There is another recently active post saying Mike from Case Pro can automate your machine. Edited December 24, 2016 by mlmiller1 add link to the other post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoR Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I sent an email through their website but I never got an answer. They say they are working on one for 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 I did get an email response to my query; they confirmed it is a roll sizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoR Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I did get an email response to my query; they confirmed it is a roll sizer.Hmm interesting! Now I need to confirm whether it will resize the extractor groove or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 If it's a proper roll sizer its competetively priced given at $1050 it's already automated. Intertsing that it says the 40sw model will also do 45acp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 So has anybody here BOUGHT one!? Or know somebody that has one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach1soldier Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Looks interesting but without knowing exactly what it roll sizes and how, I'll stick with my case pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 On 12/28/2016 at 8:50 PM, mach1soldier said: Looks interesting but without knowing exactly what it roll sizes and how, I'll stick with my case pro Ya, I'm interested but don't really want to be "First" LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkballedtarget Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I know this is an older thread, but has anybody had any experience with this machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoR Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I know this is an older thread, but has anybody had any experience with this machine? Not me. And it went up in price... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkballedtarget Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I thought they went up also. I was looking at them last month, and I thought they were $1200.. Now they are $1400ish?? I may just stick with the casepro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 They were $1050 5 months ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austjoe Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I email them and said out of stock but could not tell me when they would be available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkballedtarget Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/10/2017 at 0:43 AM, BeerBaron said: They were $1050 5 months ago... Supply and demand i guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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