Kmarsh1966 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I have been out of competition pistol shooting for 21 years. Upon a recent return, I agreed to do some score keeping. We finished up one stage and were moving to the second stage. I realized that I forgot to do the totals on the score cards, and failed to study the next stage. I thought I had it all figured out and my name was drawn as the first shooter. I felt really rushed and should have asked to be bumped back in the shooting order. In my quick walk thru I failed to notice one target, that from one shooting position showed white (i.e. NO SHOOT) and from another you get the other side being a shoot target. So you can guess that I never engaged what I thought was a no shoot. 2 Mikes 2 Procedurals Ouch. Take your time. Unless you are truly amazing, you will not get rich doing this, it is just a hobby. Be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Tough to do two things at the same time But, are you positive I "will not get rich doing this"? Now, after shooting USPSA for 20 years, I am seriously deflated about that BUT, it is Really a Lot of Fun, though, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccurdy53 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 11 hours ago, Kmarsh1966 said: I have been out of competition pistol shooting for 21 years. Upon a recent return, I agreed to do some score keeping. We finished up one stage and were moving to the second stage. I realized that I forgot to do the totals on the score cards, and failed to study the next stage. I thought I had it all figured out and my name was drawn as the first shooter. I felt really rushed and should have asked to be bumped back in the shooting order. In my quick walk thru I failed to notice one target, that from one shooting position showed white (i.e. NO SHOOT) and from another you get the other side being a shoot target. So you can guess that I never engaged what I thought was a no shoot. 2 Mikes 2 Procedurals Ouch. Take your time. Unless you are truly amazing, you will not get rich doing this, it is just a hobby. Be safe. Why two Procedurals? The rulebook tells us that the scenario you describe should be two mikes and one procedural for Failure to Engage. Unless you are talking about something besides USPSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 yep unfortunately doing the scoring or running shooters is a bit of a distraction, but without folks doing this we wouldn't have matches. i've been busy running shooters a few times when all of a sudden it was my turn to shoot. normally doesn't go well. just need to pay extra attention so that you hand off the nook or timer a few shooters before your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmarsh1966 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 8 hours ago, mccurdy53 said: Why two Procedurals? The rulebook tells us that the scenario you describe should be two mikes and one procedural for Failure to Engage. Unless you are talking about something besides USPSA. IDK, just know I had 30 penalty points don't I might have dropped one other shot, so I assume 5+5 for each failed engagement. It could have been scored wrong, that is not too uncommon either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccurdy53 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 14 hours ago, Kmarsh1966 said: IDK, just know I had 30 penalty points don't I might have dropped one other shot, so I assume 5+5 for each failed engagement. It could have been scored wrong, that is not too uncommon either 2 mikes and 1 procedural is thirty points. They are 10 points each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 3 hours ago, mccurdy53 said: 2 mikes and 1 procedural is thirty points. They are 10 points each. Yep. Plus the lost possible 10 pts for 2 As. FTSA can potentially take you down 40 pts. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyN9 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 On August 24, 2016 at 8:55 AM, teros135 said: Yep. Plus the lost possible 10 pts for 2 As. FTSA can potentially take you down 40 pts. Wow. Done it , defiantly a match killer....mine was at a tourney....first FTE in 5 years plus. Still hurts to talk about it to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointerman1967 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I'm curious what that stage looked like. Trying to envision a safe stage where you see a no shoot from one position and a shootable target from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barebones1 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) being new to this, and blowing by a few targets in my first couple of uspsa match's. I found it less confusing for me. I break down the stage into "shooting possessions'" and shoot all I see from that possession. even if its on the move. I also mentally note my mag changes per possession. Probably going to jinx my self, have not "forgot a target" since I started plotting my stages this way.In the walk thru, I plot my stage. As I am loading and making ready, I am looking at "where I am going to shoot from, instead of the targets im going to shoot at" reaping the cadence in my head. EXMP. P1 stop at wall /shoot all. p2 stop half way shoot all /mag change moving to P3.stop at barrel and shoot all. Im probably looking at this ass backwards but, It seems to have helped me, develop a plan. Edited August 31, 2016 by barebones1 add thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathForbis Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I was one of the RO's at the last match I shot and didn't give myself enough time before handing off the timer to someone else. Ended up in the middle of the stage realizing I didn't have any shotgun ammunition on me. Be sure you give yourself enough time to get ready before you shoot...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csuengr Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I enjoy scoring. Means I don't have to brass and I get to watch other shooters closer and learn the stage. If I am scoring, I make sure I am all loaded up and ready before the first shooter goes. I will also score right up till I am the shooter. This actually settles my nerves. hard part is not screwing up. Last steel match I wasn't paying attention and only got two digits of the the time for one string entered on the tablet. Shooter got to go a sixth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwampler22 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Lol the only thing worse then being rushed.... Being slow beeped!!!!! Had that happen last match!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Something similar to the OPs scenario happened to me this weekend. It was the last stage, I was tired, was hurrying, and didn't do a good walk through (and count targets/shots and compare to WSB). Ironically, I shot my plan well but it didn't include a target that I didn't see in my rush - got the 2 mikes and 2 procedural (should have been one). Oh well, this time it didn't change the outcome, but it was a good reminder that consistency does not spring from complacency...and i was complacent and earned that score. As far as being slow beeped - a few matches ago I was accused of slow beeping by a shooter who thought after "standby" the beep should be almost instantaneous. I am pretty consistent about this process...after standby I count "1-1000, 2-1000" and then beep. This is well within the 1-4 second window per the rule book. I explained that to him and offered to show him the rule, but...can't please everybody, I guess. This is a volunteer sport and as long as people are doing their best to help out and be fair I am pretty tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theWacoKid Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) Bamboo, 8.3.3 I suggest you vary your beep time after the "Standby" command. Otherwise, when the gamers catch on, and we do, we will start timing your beep! That 1-4 second window when you're waiting for that beep feels like an eternity. Edited November 18, 2016 by theWacoKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Question about feeling rushed... should the occasion arise... is it ok/ethical to ask to be bumped back without any ramifications ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Just like a month ago,,I was on the timer when it was my turn to shoot,last shooter for the stage.went to next stage back on timer,my turn load made ready shot 19 rounds reload only fired two rounds,gun was empty,reloaded fired two rounds..left two targets no ammo,gun dry. you know wher this is going right,always take time to load mags or look at stage,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmick Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 8/23/2016 at 8:36 AM, mccurdy53 said: Why two Procedurals? The rulebook tells us that the scenario you describe should be two mikes and one procedural for Failure to Engage. Unless you are talking about something besides USPSA. I was thinking the same thing. Should have only been 1 procedural with two mikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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