ffgats Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 2016-12-05 at 10:48 AM, SteveT-NV said: I've been using it in practice sessions for the last couple months. Pull the trigger! You will not be disappointed. See the above post on my initial impressions. Nothing has changed since that post, other than I like it even more. Steve, At what distance you zeroed your scope, just got the scope a day ago, was scanning all the papers/ info manuals from the manufacturer, and base on their BDC the scope zeroed at 100yrds/ meters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT-NV Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, ffgats said: Steve, At what distance you zeroed your scope, just got the scope a day ago, was scanning all the papers/ info manuals from the manufacturer, and base on their BDC the scope zeroed at 100yrds/ meters. I'm one of those weirdos that Zero at the Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR) for the load I use. This ends up being 265 yds for my preferred load. With this load I'm never greater than or less than 4 inches high or low for any target out to ~315 yds. I like the lighter faster bullets for long range and use a 55 g VMax. This has served me well at RM3G and any other match that pushes the ranges out to 500-600 yds. I use the JBM Ballistics page to figure all of this out. While the manufacturers BDC data will get you close. It really only works well if you use the exact load with the same velocity that they use for their calculations. I wouldn't really consider the BRT reticle a BDC reticle since its markings are Mil based. Steve Edited January 5, 2017 by SteveT-NV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 thanks you sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFlynn Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 After more time with the Z8i, anyone have an opinions/reviews? Thinking I might switch from the Z6i to Z8i, but not sure if the extra magnification will make that big of a difference on long range stages of a 3 gun match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT-NV Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 18 hours ago, IFlynn said: After more time with the Z8i, anyone have an opinions/reviews? Thinking I might switch from the Z6i to Z8i, but not sure if the extra magnification will make that big of a difference on long range stages of a 3 gun match. I did switch from a Z6i to the Z8i, and while I like the extra magnification and am very happy with the scope, I don't think the extra magnification makes that big of a difference. Especially at the ranges that are shot at most 3-Gun Matches. That being said, I would buy it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFlynn Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 minute ago, SteveT-NV said: I did switch from a Z6i to the Z8i, and while I like the extra magnification and am very happy with the scope, I don't think the extra magnification makes that big of a difference. Especially at the ranges that are shot at most 3-Gun Matches. That being said, I would buy it again. Nice, I also heard clarity is even better, which is hard to imagine given how spectacular the clarity is on the Swarovski Z6i. Appreciate your input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuukka Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 My previous IPSC competition optic was the Kahles K16i with G 4B reticle. I used it for several seasons in national and international level matches. Absolutely nothing bad to say about it, only wish would have been a locking elevation turret. I switched to the Swarovski Z8i with the BRT-I reticle during this winter. Having now used the Z8i 1-8x for some time, I can honestly say it has made a difference compared to a 1-6x scope. Off hand shooting at 17 c, / 6.6" plates at 100 meters is very doable with the scope ( the new comp I am using and the aluminium bolt carrier of course being a part of this combo ) Best strings range c. 3.3 - 3.8 seconds from the beep for 3 shots/hits. If I mess up, then the times are in the 5-8 second range with 4-7 shots usually. So I would say the biggest diffence is the improved ability for off hand shooting at longer distances and not compromising anything in other shooting types ( low magnification, closer targets, shooting on the move etc ) The scope was really put to the test the first IPSC Rifle World Shoot in Russia earlier this month, placed 7th overall. Excellent scope overall, as one should expect from Swarovski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I am surprised to hear that you run high magnification when shooting offhand at distant challenging plates. Especially offhand I try to keep the magnification down in the 2-3x range because I find the magnified wobble makes me doubt the shot. I will give high magnification another try at my next training opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuukka Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Yes, there is perhaps more visible wobble, but proper training makes it a non issue. And arriving to a shooting position, if the dot takes a bit longer to settle ( some tenths of a second or even 1-2 seconds ) usually your hits from the string from that location will be better. At 40-50 meters, I already use 4-5X, of course if the majority of targets are closer in it may be 1,5 - 3x and then taking the fewer longer shots with that. Once I get the stage videos from the World Shoot, I may link some here that are relevant to this. Off hand mini and regular poppers at 60-90 meters and regular poppers at 110 meters. Edited June 20, 2017 by Tuukka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuukka Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Here is how the world shoot looked like, the 1-8x was really good there, combined with the T1 ( IIRC used on 15 stages ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Nice shooting What is the new comp ? Didn't see any movement of the muzzle at all !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuukka Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 52 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Nice shooting What is the new comp ? Didn't see any movement of the muzzle at all !!! It is the Finn Tac comp from AV Ase ( Jarkko Laukia, the silver medalist in Open is a co-owner there ) https://www.av-ase.fi/ase/tuote/finntac-223-suujarru-½x28unef-rst/403066/ Leftie version for me. I used the JP comp for a long time, but this is even better in my setup. If I do my part right, the dot basically bounces over a plate at off hand at 100 meters, it sounded not so believable at first when I talked about it with Jarkko ;), but when I got the comp I got to see it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk21 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Can you guys explain why the BRT over the 4A-IF, was thinking that larger circle would be great for close quarters? Its seems the majority have choosen the BRT just wondering what lead to that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagePlan Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 What throw lever are you guys using ? I just got the 1-8 from Swarovski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk21 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I ordered an open box factory swaro TL (fits all 1x models) from B&H and saved $20 off retail, they still have another in stock as of today. Also MK Machining makes 3d printed polymer ones for $20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuukka Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On Wed Nov 22 2017 at 10:41 PM, Hawk21 said: Can you guys explain why the BRT over the 4A-IF, was thinking that larger circle would be great for close quarters? Its seems the majority have choosen the BRT just wondering what lead to that decision. IMHO no need for a larger circle at 1x and the BRT-I gives you more BDC lines for a stage with targets at varying distances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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