biglou13 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 i pretty sure my AR is tuned light weight buffer system, brake, adj gas, light weight BCG i don't think i could squeeze any more performance out of it.... almost no muzzle rise 16 inch barrel what i'm observing in my shooting and others shooting my rifle is a slight lateral movement to right (i'm right handed) both mod weaver and isoceles my groups and splits are way faster and better than hand gun please advise i'm relatively new to this style of shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 almost no muzzle rise a slight lateral movement to right Wow. Sounds Great !!! Can you turn your comp slightly to the left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou13 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Jack, Yes I can. I will try that . Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennJeep1618 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 almost no muzzle rise a slight lateral movement to right Wow. Sounds Great !!! Can you turn your comp slightly to the left? I agree. I have to clock most of my comps where the "top" is actually at about 1-1:30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou13 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Jack is telling me right Tenn is telling me left I'll try both......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennJeep1618 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Jack is telling me right Tenn is telling me left I'll try both......... I guess I read Jack's post wrong. You want to clock the top of the brake toward the direction of movement/recoil. If the gun is moving to the right, then clock the top of the brake toward the right (at 1-1:30, as you're looking down the rifle from stock to muzzle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmeh Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Due to the movement of your BODY, there will always be a bit of high and strong side movement, unless you tune a break so much it overcomes that. Your actual grip/stance tying you into the carbine can greatly affect how the muzzle moves. Try the technique of "throwing a punch" into the back of the rifle, rolling your strong side shoulder forward, and using the entire right side of your body to set tension. Imagine what you do when you throw a punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Having a small amount of torque to the right is not necessarily a bad thing. Use it to your advantage, when engaging steel, shoot left to right and let the torque help you transition from one target to another. When shooting paper, shoot right to left swinging through, letting the torque momentarily stop the barrel and putting nice pairs on the target. Of course, you can't do this in all situations, but it can be used when possible. Torque is a product of barrel twist, it can be counteracted with body mechanics and/or gas vectoring. Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmeh Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, HRider said: Torque is a product of barrel twist, it can be counteracted with body mechanics and/or gas vectoring. So, if it was a weird comblok barrel that has opposite barrel twist, you're saying the gun would recoil left in a right handed shooter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Timmeh said: So, if it was a weird comblok barrel that has opposite barrel twist, you're saying the gun would recoil left in a right handed shooter? Actually a buddy of mine was running a left twist barrel on his PRS rifle for a while. He said it twisted into his body where it was easier to mitigate rather than away from it. His wind calls were different than his teammates though so he pulled the plug on his left twist experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmeh Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TonytheTiger said: Actually a buddy of mine was running a left twist barrel on his PRS rifle for a while. He said it twisted into his body where it was easier to mitigate rather than away from it. His wind calls were different than his teammates though so he pulled the plug on his left twist experiment. It would be an interesting experiment, while it may effect it, I think the side of the body it is on is more important. My argument would be that even left handed shooters have high left movement with right-hand twist barrel. It kinda makes me want to try it! Edited September 6, 2018 by Timmeh Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I breifly considered having him spin me a left twist AR barrel just to try it, but then I remembered I have lower hanging fruit to work on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmeh Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Very true, there's always something else to pick up, it's most likely splitting %'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 If the barrel has opposite twist, it will torque the opposite way. For every action, there is an opposite reaction. Try going to the range and placing your rifle hand guard in the lower right corner of a window on a sturdy barricade. Hold the hand guard tight into the corner and put 5 rounds on a paper target at 12-15 yards as fast as you can pull the trigger. Notice your hits. Do the same thing from the left corner of the window and notice your hits. Most people will have hits closer together from the right corner because the barricade is keeping the rifle from pushing. This has been my experience anyway. Think about it, your shotgun probably doesn't push to one side or the other. Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I think which shoulder you shoot from will have much more effect on which way the gun moves than which way the twist runs in the barrel. I also think you'll get way more reaction from a shotgun as the recoil is much heavier than 9mm or .223. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greerstyl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 how did this work out? twisting the comp help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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