Sarge Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 hours ago, mreed911 said: Re-read 5.2.4 and tell me I can't use a magnet prior to the Standby command. I did. You can't. The Production appendix does not say when. It says you can't use a magnet to retain a magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraj Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sarge said: I did. You can't. The Production appendix does not say when. It says you can't use a magnet to retain a magazine I asked Troy about magnets in single stack a couple of months ago.. Troy is the bold. Both single stack and production say "Magazines may no be retained through magnetic means." pretty clear.Hello Troy,A shooter and I disagreed on if magazine pouches like this are allowed in single stack. My understanding is if it has a magnet and you use it during the course of fire your in open. Is this the correct way to apply the rule? Thanks, Matt Matt Yes, that's correct. However use of the magnet at any time will move you to Open. It's not restricted to during the course of fire. Ok to have it on your belt, but not ok to retain a magazine with it, period. Troy Edited May 18, 2017 by Kraj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraj Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sarge said: I did. You can't. The Production appendix does not say when. It says you can't use a magnet to retain a magazine Agreed, quoted the wrong post Edited May 18, 2017 by Kraj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraj Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 4 hours ago, mreed911 said: Re-read 5.2.4 and tell me I can't use a magnet prior to the Standby command. If you do in production or single stack your in open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Long thread about magnet use in SS and PD.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge40 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 So if a production shooter has a barney mag in his front pocket to make ready does that mean he gets bumped to open as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Edge40 said: So if a production shooter has a barney mag in his front pocket to make ready does that mean he gets bumped to open as well? No. 5.2.4 Should the division restrict the location of the magazines or speed loading devices, carrying them in apparel pocket(s) forward of the restriction point will be allowed providing they are not removed from the apparel pocket(s) between the “standby” command and the command “ if clear, hammer down and holster”. (e.g. – a magazine may be retrieved from a front pocket to facilitate loading before the start signal or while unloading at the end of a COF without penalty). Edited May 19, 2017 by Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge40 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, Sarge said: No. That rule has been clarified to mean between start signal and range is clear. or words to that effect. is that in the rule book or a clarification from NROI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Edge40 said: is that in the rule book or a clarification from NROI? Rule book. It was in the 2014 changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepunishur Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I've seen too many people try to stow mags blindly. Look them in, just like when putting it in the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, thepunishur said: I've seen too many people try to stow mags blindly. Look them in, just like when putting it in the pistol. Yep kind of like shooting long range steel. Faster to aim and take a little more time than to try to jam them in as fast as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepunishur Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Sarge said: Yep kind of like shooting long range steel. Faster to aim and take a little more time than to try to jam them in as fast as you can. I have a friend that is convinced he could double tap the long range steel. It has never worked a single time, yet he still insists on doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 On 7/1/2016 at 8:24 PM, WaJim said: Last weekend it seemed like it took me ten minutes to stow two mags on an unloaded all mags on table start.....anyone here with any secrets to getting them in the pouch without fumbling? I've found that the index finger all the way down to the end of the mag for guidance works but repeatability is suffering....sometimes I can get them stowed quickly, sometimes they take a bit. I've been practicing this week because I have a Match Sunday where, now that i'm practicing, I'm sure there wont be a table start...... Thanks! I didn't see what division that you are shooting in. If its open and I do not move from the table I place the mag right at the entrance to the mag wall and slap it in, if I need two mags I have a magnet on the front of my belt, or just pick up two and put the first one in as I move to the first shooting position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinimon Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) The first match I shot unloaded table start, I fumbled for a good few seconds trying to stuff mags into my mag pouches. I noticed a few seasoned shooters had at least one mag pouch as their first and I spoke to them about it. Good some good tips/advice from 'em. First pouch on my belt is the DAA large, open faced magnet that can hold two mags without any issues. Depending on the round count on the stage, it may only require one mag change. On a larger stage, I'll sit two mags together on the left, slightly angled, bullets up and staggered ie the right one about an inch higher than the left, this way when I reach for a mag on my mag change, I'm not fighting to separate them. The third mag is in line with my pistol's magwell. Buzzer goes off, snatch the two mags with my left hand and slap them on the magnet. Slam the mag third mag right into the pistol's magwell, quick slide rack and start snapping off targets. Edited April 13, 2018 by Trinimon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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