JD45 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 What is the hottest load you would use in a stock G17 barrel with a 124gr. JHP? Its not for matches, just for carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Dobbs Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I never carry reloaded ammo for defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 federal +p+ 124 124 will do anything you ask. If you look at load data for VV3n38- you can push a Hornady 147 at speeds most people are loading for 124. I would not hesitate to carry my reloads for a match hundreds of miles from home or for self defense if the need arose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Just buy some NATO stuff. Shoot-throughs are tactical wins on the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armydad Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I completely agree with Wayne; no reloads for carry. To give you an idea of hottest load, Winchester Ranger brand is a pretty hot load for 9mm, similar to rdinga's post above on Federal. The Ranger is a 124 grain bullet. The specs are given a 4" barrel. Muzzle velocity is 1180 fps. Velocities for 5 yards and 25 yards are 1169 and 1126 fps, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightFireJay Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 If you're going to hand load your carry ammo, consider 2 things... 1. With the exception of Speer Gold Dots (and possibly the Sig V-Crown), none of the newer generation extremely consistent performing JHPs are available for reloaders. So that's where I'd start, Gold Dots are used by many LEO agencies and have a proven track record. 2. Potentially of greater importance are muzzle flash (to preserve visual acuity in low light conditions, which are 80% of defensive shootings) and being able to to have quick follow up shots. Not that you asked for it, but arguments against reloads for defensive use... 1. Overly aggressive ADAs and ignorant juries. 2. Factory loads are easier for crime labs to verify ballistics and powder burn patterns (especially if you keep the box with lot numbers) to verify your version of events. 3. A $20-$40 investment for a box or two of quality JHPs is cheap compared to the cost of legal defense and your life. Professional made parachute vs homemade parachute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 We carry WIN Ranger LEO (SXT,the old Black Talon) 127+P+. It chronos at about 1,280 fps in a Glock. Couple of the G17s made it over 1,300 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightFireJay Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 We carry WIN Ranger LEO (SXT,the old Black Talon) 127+P+. It chronos at about 1,280 fps in a Glock. Couple of the G17s made it over 1,300 fps. Apparently Winchester thought that "+P+" was latin for "proof load"! Is that where you got the horribly flattened primer and melted headstamp 9mm Win case from the other thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 We carry WIN Ranger LEO (SXT,the old Black Talon) 127+P+. It chronos at about 1,280 fps in a Glock. Couple of the G17s made it over 1,300 fps. Apparently Winchester thought that "+P+" was latin for "proof load"! Is that where you got the horribly flattened primer and melted headstamp 9mm Win case from the other thread? No, just range brass that I took a photo of to show newbies what to look for, the squashed one was not fired from a Glock. SXT is hot, but it doesn't do that at all. It looks the same as Speer Lawman, which looks the same as WIN .357SIG, that has been fired in a Glock. More of a strike impression than practice ammo, but nowhere near pressure signs. I'll run a couple of SXT caps out this weekend and post a picture later. Here's another one I found, my reload on the left from a 125 HiTek on top of 4.2 grs TiteGroup at 1.130" OAL versus, who knows what the one on the right is, but it was not fired from a Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightFireJay Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 That's an old piece of brass on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 Lol. I forgot I posted this. So, assuming I use factory for carry, what is the hottest u would go in a stock barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 And I mean reloading data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanatos903 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 The hottest load I've tried out of my stock G34 barrel was 6.2gr Power Pistol under a 124gr plated RN at 1250 fps. I didn't see any primer flattening or case bulging, but I decided that I wasn't going to try to push it any faster. No need to, especially when I was just doing it out of curiosity. I'd be very careful trying to duplicate this load, especially with a traditional JHP. Work up slowly, watch for pressure signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanatos903 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Notes in my spreadsheet say "Recoil, concussion, and muzzle flash make me wonder 'Why?'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF1680 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I was testing a few loads in a glock 26 and 6.7 grains of Longshot pushed a 124 Plated to 1215 fps. No pressure signs but didn't run anything hotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hceuterpe Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Defensive ammo is pricey for sure, but it's not like you'll be going through those rounds on a regular basis. I hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I have never been able to find +P+ load data though there is some +P. Power Pistol will give good performance but has a big flash. It's new cousin BE 86 is flash suppressed and should provide good performance. I have not tried it though a fellow 3 gunner I shot with is very impressed with it. I second the Gold Dots. I would easily feel comfortable shooting max loads in a factory glock barrel. Check out load data for 9mm major on this forum. The OP lives in the Southeastern US of A. I wouldn't sweat the hand loads too much down here. All my carry guns have some type of +P+ 9mm LEO ammo in them. I will be switching over to all Underwood ammo in the future. I bought some 10mm ammo for my trips into grizzly country and I am impressed with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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