TFin04 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Anybody else have some difficulty with the factory 320 magwell and mags hanging up? The geometry of the well provides a lot of potential catch points. I notice it more in dry fire (I use snap caps), but have totally screwed more than my usual live fire reloads. Has anyone done anything other than just practice to improve this? So far this is the only complaint I have about the 320. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I have an alma grip with the magwell love. It's awesome. You need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I don't know what to call the hump in the rear but that is problem number one of you haven't changed how you reload yet. It's a pretty sharp and unforgiving wall until you angle your muzzle slightly further down. Changing the angle and then aiming for the rear of the magwell versus the front makes a huge difference. There is also a little hump just inside the front of the magwell that also seems to hang me up sometimes. When possible I like to remove that. There a few more things you can do depending on which division you shoot and how you interpret those rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Can someone post a picture or too of a Production legal P320 magwell opening that has been set up to be "optimum"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFin04 Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 You mind sharing ideas for a production gun? The thing I like avout the 320 is that I can have one frame with a magwell and one without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Necro post warning... I just picked up a 320 and have the same questions. Anyone "open" the magwell to allowed limits for production or just radius the edges and eased the hard points? It's a change coming off a Tanfo that has a generous magwell funnel. Pictures would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 This isn't mine, and I forgot where I found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Thanks Quack! Gives me something to work on this weekend. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just found a few more photos - question is, would this be production legal? I don't see that it is prohibited but not specifically allowed either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmooberry Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I don't have a rulebook handy, but I want to say there is something in there about the magwell opening cannot be greater than 1/4" larger than it comes from the factory. I think it is something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Ethan - This is the rule: Article D4 - 22.4 - Magwell Opening - The longitudinal (front-to-back) dimension of the opening may be more than 1/4” greater than the corresponding dimension of a magazine. External flaring remains PROHIBITED. So it appears as long as the profile of the grip (22.2 - Grips – any addition or removal of material which changes the factory profile or adds functions such as beavertail or thumb rest) that it would be legal. The grip modules are cheap enough to replace, however, I don't want to get dinged at a major. Edited January 5, 2017 by SCTaylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmooberry Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I would interpret that to mean the pictures you posted would be a legal modification. Just the same, you could probably send an email to Troy McManus with those same pictures to get his thoughts on the subject. My wife is looking into a P320 Romeo for carry optics, so I will probably be looking to do a similar mod in the near future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Ethan - Funny you should say that, cause I did exactly that after my post yesterday. Troy said as long as it is all internal, not modifying the profile then it is indeed legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just keep in mind that if you make the sides that thin then they break down quickly if you hit the sides a break it down easily. I like to leave them a bit thicker where possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmooberry Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 57 minutes ago, SCTaylor said: Ethan - Funny you should say that, cause I did exactly that after my post yesterday. Troy said as long as it is all internal, not modifying the profile then it is indeed legal. Nice! Thanks for the follow up. 56 minutes ago, alma said: Just keep in mind that if you make the sides that thin then they break down quickly if you hit the sides a break it down easily. I like to leave them a bit thicker where possible. That's a good thought. I do tend to miss quite often.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the tip Alma. But like you've pontificated before, new modules are ~$40. I'm gonna have some fun with a dremel and SiC soon! Edited January 6, 2017 by SCTaylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 It seems like the mag well base is External.... Until you file it and make it Internal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Ok, follow along.... Rules say internal mods are defined as not visible when gun is in battery. Definition of In Battery by every military description I know is gun loaded, breach closed, ready to fire. To extrapolate that further on a pistol, that would be bullet loaded, slide down, and .... to even get to that loaded point..... you would have to have a mag inserted. So with mag inserted can you see all that magwell dremeling? If not, its an internal modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 0:03 PM, Jerome said: It seems like the mag well base is External.... Until you file it and make it Internal. From NROI - my note included these images I posted above. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "There is no prohibition in the rules against internal beveling and smoothing, only against external flaring of the mag well. The changes you note are not considered to be external flaring." Troy --------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta66 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Reloading the 320 is like throwing a hot dog down a hallway compared to my glock 34. You gamers need more practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 12 hours ago, Quack said: Not mine. Like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magsz Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Quack, Any idea who did that work? Its pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteDingo Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 My concern with that particular grip is that it's likely not production legal, depending on which base pads are on the gun. If you're using a standard profile pad, you could definitely see the rear bevel with a mag inserted. With something like the Obsidian, you likely would not. It's still an excellent job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Quack, Any idea who did that work? Its pretty impressive. https://www.instagram.com/p/BF2PR0KH3C0/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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