Prov1x Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I couldn't find anything in the rules, maybe I missed it, but can you cut ipsc targets in half etc. I know you can on the classic targets but not sure on the other. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Interesting question. This is what I found: 4.2.4 When the scoring area of a paper target is to be partially hidden, course designers must simulate hard cover in one of the following ways:4.2.4.1 By actually hiding a portion of the target (see Rule 4.1.4.1).4.2.4.2 By physically cutting targets to remove the portion deemed to be hidden by hard cover. Such targets must be fitted with a replacement non-scoring border, which must extend the full width of the cut scoring area (see Rule 4.2.2). 4.2.4 talks about paper targets without identifying type so either should be good. But note the replacement non-scoring border requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent1k1 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I've shot multiple Level 2 IPSC matches, including an IPSC Nationals with them cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 Interesting question. This is what I found: 4.2.4 When the scoring area of a paper target is to be partially hidden, course designers must simulate hard cover in one of the following ways: 4.2.4.1 By actually hiding a portion of the target (see Rule 4.1.4.1). 4.2.4.2 By physically cutting targets to remove the portion deemed to be hidden by hard cover. Such targets must be fitted with a replacement non-scoring border, which must extend the full width of the cut scoring area (see Rule 4.2.2). 4.2.4 talks about paper targets without identifying type so either should be good. But note the replacement non-scoring border requirement. The way that rule reads is that I would have to have either a hard cover or no shoot target to make up for the missing part of the cut one? That's what I read and it confused me, maybe I'll ask Troy next week at SSNats to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 I've shot multiple Level 2 IPSC matches, including an IPSC Nationals with them cut. Can you provide an example please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Interesting question. This is what I found: 4.2.4 When the scoring area of a paper target is to be partially hidden, course designers must simulate hard cover in one of the following ways: 4.2.4.1 By actually hiding a portion of the target (see Rule 4.1.4.1). 4.2.4.2 By physically cutting targets to remove the portion deemed to be hidden by hard cover. Such targets must be fitted with a replacement non-scoring border, which must extend the full width of the cut scoring area (see Rule 4.2.2). 4.2.4 talks about paper targets without identifying type so either should be good. But note the replacement non-scoring border requirement. The way that rule reads is that I would have to have either a hard cover or no shoot target to make up for the missing part of the cut one? That's what I read and it confused me, maybe I'll ask Troy next week at SSNats to be sure. 4.2.4.2 says it is OK to cut the target to simulate hard cover. What confuses you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 Interesting question. This is what I found: 4.2.4 When the scoring area of a paper target is to be partially hidden, course designers must simulate hard cover in one of the following ways: 4.2.4.1 By actually hiding a portion of the target (see Rule 4.1.4.1). 4.2.4.2 By physically cutting targets to remove the portion deemed to be hidden by hard cover. Such targets must be fitted with a replacement non-scoring border, which must extend the full width of the cut scoring area (see Rule 4.2.2). 4.2.4 talks about paper targets without identifying type so either should be good. But note the replacement non-scoring border requirement. The way that rule reads is that I would have to have either a hard cover or no shoot target to make up for the missing part of the cut one? That's what I read and it confused me, maybe I'll ask Troy next week at SSNats to be sure. 4.2.4.2 says it is OK to cut the target to simulate hard cover. What confuses you? Um possibly this, Such targets must be fitted with a replacement non-scoring border, which must extend the full width of the cut scoring area (see Rule 4.2.2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prov1x Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 However we just heard back from troy and he said that cutting targets was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Um possibly this, Such targets must be fitted with a replacement non-scoring border, which must extend the full width of the cut scoring area (see Rule 4.2.2). The missing part simulates the hard cover. The "replacement non-scoring border" just makes it possible to determine if a hit near the cut edge is a hit or miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 One piece of tape carefully applied along the edge, we usually use black, but tan is also ok. It allows you to score a hit that is tangent to the scoring area. if there were no border you would have to determine if a scrape on the edge of the target was a hit or just a cutting issue. Simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhall Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I've shot multiple Level 2 IPSC matches, including an IPSC Nationals with them cut.Can you provide an example please? This years Florida Open used cut classic targets for at least one stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZinZA Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 As long as some part of each scoring area still remains Sent by Jedi mind control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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