Easy Luber - automatic case lube system for Dillon 650 XL

[Smeeg]

looks like this guy made these in germany seems like a good idea what do you guys think?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/130843620818

[jmorris]

Have a buddy that has one. Erector set parts and a federal primer tray. He likes it except for all the bugs that collect in the inverted tray.

Edited March 3, 2016 by jmorris

[Pat Miles]

I can buy a lot of One Shot for that price. I can lube 100 case in a matter of minutes also.

[Smeeg]

Have a buddy that has one. Erector set parts and a federal primer tray. He likes it except for all the bugs that collect in the inverted tray.

Surprised you haven't made one jmoriss

[Smeeg]

I can buy a lot of One Shot for that price. I can lube 100 case in a matter of minutes also.

I was mainly thinking rifle

[jmorris]

Surprised you haven't made one jmoriss

I have a bankers box lid that holds one layer of cases just right for 3 squirts of lube, a quick shake and dump into the collator no it's the right amount to not slip the clutch. By the time the cases get to the shell plate, they are dry.

Might not be a system that works for everyone but it works for me and cheap enough.

[Pat Miles]

I can buy a lot of One Shot for that price. I can lube 100 case in a matter of minutes also.

I was mainly thinking rifle

Same drill.

[BeerBaron]

I don't think its solving a problem. Certainly not for pistol. I chuck 200-300 cases into a ziplock bag. Give it a few squirts of one shot. Seal. Shake around a bit. Dump into collator. Takes less than 1min and works very nicely.

[Tom S.]

Using a spray also inevitably gets some lube in to the case mouth which helps at the belling operation, which this system won't do. I look at this auto lube system as a cure for a non-existent problem.

Edited March 3, 2016 by Tom S.

[Smeeg]

The inventor on eBay got back to me he no longer makes them. So you'd have to make your own

[Boxer1]

What about the RCBS Lube dies? I have one I have not used yet but seems like it will keep the case feeder cleaner that way.

[jmorris]

I never used an RCBS lube die but I don't recall ever cleaning the inside of any of my collators, except one of my bullet collators when using wax lubed bullets.

The reason I have never used an RCBS lube die is because they only decap and lube. So that would mean you have to run all of the cases through the press twice. Once to decap and lube then again to resize, prime, powder bullet and crimp.

Spray and shake is many, many times faster than that and your case feeder would have lubed cases in it anyway.

Edited July 21, 2016 by jmorris

[Smeeg]

I was thinking for a 650 prep tool head (rifle)

Station 1 rcbs lube die

Station 2 full length resize

Station 3 rapid trim 1500

Station 4 blank

Station 5 Lyman M die(to debur slightly)

[jmorris]

With the 1200 on a 650 the vacuum manifold is large enough that you cannot have dies in an adjacent station.

If you are able to get everything to fit I don't see why that would not work.

With the dillon set up I used it in #3 so I could have dies in 1&5.

Edited July 22, 2016 by jmorris

[Scrmblr]

What about putting a foam ball (baseball size) sprayed with case lube in the case feeder? It should just roll around with cases, and shouldn't put weight or pressure on the clutch. I think I'll try it and report back.

[Kaldor]

With the 1200 on a 650 the vacuum manifold is large enough that you cannot have dies in an adjacent station.

If you are able to get everything to fit I don't see why that would not work.

With the dillon set up I used it in #3 so I could have dies in 1&5.

jmorris - what toolhead is that that on the left?

[jmorris]

It's a GSI, for trimming 300 blk.

[Kaldor]

Too bad its not usable for other calibers.

[Boxer1]

Definitely was going to want to size in station 2 and I only have a WFT to use so no going with a press mounted trimmer.

[jmorris]

If your going to trim by hand you could put the lube die in #1 and the size die in 2,3,4 or 5.

Once you have it set up post back, I would be interested in knowing how much lube they go through.

Edited July 23, 2016 by jmorris

[Smeeg]

Someone started making a similar product 

 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Automatic-Case-Oiler-Dillon-650-Case-Feeder-Gravity-Oiler-Hornady-RCBS-Lee-/162401670193?hash=item25cfe4d431%3Ag%3AycEAAOSwA3dYY~1w&_trkparms=pageci%3A18ad2f48-0061-11e7-9549-74dbd1801f2a%7Cparentrq%3A964c514515a0a2af77840837ffe84c15%7Ciid%3A23

Edited March 3, 2017 by Smeeg

[jmorris]

Your link doesn't send me to any product.

[CZinSC]

41 minutes ago, jmorris said:

Your link doesn't send me to any product.

 

Go to bottom right of page, click on "skip these deals and continue to eBay"

 

 

[Tom S.]

On 3/3/2017 at 5:30 PM, Smeeg said:

Someone started making a similar product 

 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Automatic-Case-Oiler-Dillon-650-Case-Feeder-Gravity-Oiler-Hornady-RCBS-Lee-/162401670193?hash=item25cfe4d431%3Ag%3AycEAAOSwA3dYY~1w&_trkparms=pageci%3A18ad2f48-0061-11e7-9549-74dbd1801f2a%7Cparentrq%3A964c514515a0a2af77840837ffe84c15%7Ciid%3A23

That system uses oil, which is an inherit no-no (oil in a chamber can send pressures skyward, plus it contaminates powder and primers).  I wonder how it would work using Dillon lube, and also what modifications could be made to put a drain in it?

[78Staff]

9 hours ago, Tom S. said:

That system uses oil, which is an inherit no-no (oil in a chamber can send pressures skyward, plus it contaminates powder and primers).  I wonder how it would work using Dillon lube, and also what modifications could be made to put a drain in it?

 

I think the Oiler label is mis-leading, you can use any liquid-based case lube.  I bought one a while back and tried it (will Dillon lube and 223) - seems like a good idea but I really never got it to work well - I never got a stuck case but I got a lot more resistance than just using the box lid and spray method.  I think there's not enough time from running through the wheels to hitting the sizing die maybe, but anyway I didn't care for it.  I returned it and the eBay seller refunded my purchase price.  On a 1050 it also sits at a slight angle since the casefeed tube is at a slight angle, so you have to be careful in filling to get enough to hit the wheels while not putting in so much that you overflow on the low side.  The "cup" is just a plastic endcap like you would find on a cardboard shipping tube, so would be easy enough to put a drain of some sort in I suppose as well.