NickD Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 With the recent rule change increasing the max weight to 45oz with empty mag and optic, the Stock II would sneak in under the wire if my calcs are correct. Weight with mag is 43oz (weighed mine to be sure). Also weighed the rear sight at 1.05 oz which would obviously be removed. Slide cut would remove more weight (?). Checked weight of Burris FF III and Docter sights, both under 1 oz. with battery. Leupold Deltapoint is .6 oz with batt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) If you do run it, could you do a SAO trigger or would that be illegal? It would also depend on if you milled the slide or used a dovetail mount. I would mill, that would remove weight. Not a ton, but some. Edited February 5, 2016 by Open1215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 You could run a single sided witness safety to cut some weight. Also I think a plastic shadow recoil rod works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Leupold Deltapoint is no longer made. The new Leupold Deltapoint Pro 1.95oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Looks like the wheels are turning! SAO is a no go. DP Pro would be close but should be good to go with slide cut, maybe not with dovetail mount. Don't believe optics have to be in current production to play. http://uspsa.org/document_library/2015/APPENDIX-Carry%20Optics%20Provisional%20Division.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfish Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I was thinking about that too when they released the weight change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetskidawg Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Has anyone done this yet? Would love to see a picture of the finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 If I could find an adapter to fit the LPA dovetail, I've got a FastFire III I'd like to try out. Not sure I'm ready to cut the slide until I do. Might be a better idea to buy a new slide to get modified so you could change back and forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 A slide costs a bunch. A full top, from eea, is as much as a CO glock or M&P gun. But if you keep an eye on Gunbroker, there have been some around 400-450. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911A12011 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Is there anybody here who already tried shooting the Stock 2 with Delta Point (or any other red dot) in Carry Optics Division? I think it's an awesome set-up for as long as it's within the weight limit. Is there any after market mount available? Or who can do the slide cut and install the red dot at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Or who can do the slide cut and install the red dot at the same time? I used to run a slide ride scope on my Tanfoglio Open gun, Beven Grams did the milling for it. It's possible to get the scope really low down on these slides... You could try Beven or Canyon Creek Custom as I think they do a lot of work on Tanfoglios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHitchcock Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Would be interested in a LPA dovetail mount to try it out. But there is no way I would cut a stock ii slide for an optic without trying it with dovetail first. I think a light dovetail mount w/ an RTS2 would make weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911A12011 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Thanks BritinUSA! I'll try to contact them. That's a great point MHitchcock however I can't find any mount for old version Delta Point (not the Pro). I have a RTS2 but I think I'll keep that with my 2011 frame mounted red dot for Open Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimaryBruce Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Thanks BritinUSA! I'll try to contact them. That's a great point MHitchcock however I can't find any mount for old version Delta Point (not the Pro). I have a RTS2 but I think I'll keep that with my 2011 frame mounted red dot for Open Division. If you haven't found someone to mill your slide, we can do it at Primary Machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Firing pin block still has to function to be legal for the division. Not much space in front of it to mount a dot unless you want it right behind the breechface. The cut would also have to cut into the pin location for the extractor. Best option would be a dovetail mount so you can change it back and still shoot production division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Thanks BritinUSA! I'll try to contact them. That's a great point MHitchcock however I can't find any mount for old version Delta Point (not the Pro). I have a RTS2 but I think I'll keep that with my 2011 frame mounted red dot for Open Division. If you haven't found someone to mill your slide, we can do it at Primary Machine. Hey, if the LPA adapter doesn't exist to make this happen could you or MrPostman machine one??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I could make one. I plan on making one for my Limited Pro. As soon as I get the Shield/Jpoint in I will get right on it, and then send you some pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911A12011 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 That's a great input MrPostman. I agree with you that the best option is an adaptor. Thanks EngeneerEli, I decided not to machine cut my slide anymore so I can change it back and shoot production (if needed). I hope you can make a red dot adaptor if no one has started making them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) You can buy the poly Shield sight directly from Shield in Britain. I paid $237 shipped for mine and it is the same sight as the Jpoint which is $299 plus shipping. The best part is that it is all poly construction so it only weighs .5 oz, so you are not adding much weight. Edited July 27, 2016 by MrPostman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHitchcock Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I'd imagine if you made the lpa mount pretty light anf used the jpoint you wouldn't have to find weight to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I plan on using some 6061 aluminum so it will be light. I can use the factory detent locations under the LPA by drilling and tapping the mount to hold it in place, and then drill and thread the aluminum for the optic mounting screws where it slides into the dovetail for maximum strength. Should work very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I'd be down for one of the dovetail mounts for a stockii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) I'd be down for one of the dovetail mounts for a stockii. Looks like I will be making a few of them Edited July 28, 2016 by MrPostman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHitchcock Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Same. Curious if you will have to find weight savings elsewhere to make the 45oz cut off. Keep us posted! Would really like to do a rts2 but another 1/2 oz of optic may make things difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 The Lim Pro weighs 41 oz if what is posted on EAAs sight is correct. It lists the Stock 2 at 43 oz. The factory LPA adjustable sight weighs about .5 oz so it will be a push with the shield/Jpoint. The mount and screws will add about .3 to .4 oz. So the Lim pro should make weight, the Stock 2 may need some lighting with some scale grips and/or some internal lightening in the frame or slide. The front sight weighs about .15 oz so you can lose that if needed. Short bus/Luke would you weigh your stock 2 with an empty mag to see where we are at? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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