Dealing with trash talkers

[KellyB]

 
When he comments, make a point to look directly at him and step out of the box. 
Take 30 - 60 to clear your head and breathe, then step back in. 
 
Make sure everyone knows he is causing the delay. 
 
Other shooters will start to “suggest” to him to pipe down. 

I like this. I wonder how rule 8.3.1.1 would apply after the “Make Ready” command was given.

[Merldizzle]

On 10/14/2015 at 10:04 AM, waktasz said:

Crush him. Have him driven before you, and hear the lamentation of his woman.

Conan knows what is best in life 

[Malarky112]

I wonder how the OP is doing now and if the guy ever shutup?  This was an interesting thread because I have never seen this before at matches.  95% of the people seem to be nice, friendly and helpful  The other 5% are kinda quit and don't want to be bothered.  

[Intheshaw1]

I agree, ive never run into anyone less than helpful and fun to be around.

 

Curious to hear about the outcome of this.

[ccollins3006]

I wear foam ear plugs so I don't have to listen to anyone. 

[usmc1974]

On 10/13/2015 at 10:08 PM, valerko said:

I've must be lucky. I never ran into dickhead at any shooting event. Lol

But I do quietly eavesdrop on to what the really good shooter is the saying or how they will shoot course of Fire. And watch how they do it

[Seery]

Just ignore them and do your thing.

[DD78]

Trash talking is fun when you give it back.  In my experience, trash talkers can't handle it when you trash talk in return.  

 

I used to play a lot of golf when I was younger, and almost always played for money.  Skins, match play, whatever.  I played with different people, all who loved playing for money as much as I did.  

 

I remember two guys who constantly trash talked while we played.  I never let it affect me, tuned it out, and focused solely on my visualization of my shot.  At a certain point it became white noise in the background.  

 

One day I wasn't in a great mood so I became tired of listening to it, so I decided to trash talk, but subtly.  "Oh man, that water looks to be in play if you slice it".  I'd say this knowing that the trash talker battled a slice.  The trash talker would be on a part of the green that I knew broke the opposite way than it looks, and I'd say "you got lucky, that's a simple left to right break".  The ball would break the opposite way lol.  

 

Sure enough, the trash talking stopped because these people fold up like a lawn chair when you give it back.  They'll spend so much of their mental energy trying to figure out how to get to you, that their own games suffer.  

 

There's one guy I know who trash talks.  I just ignore him, but if it continues, I have great ways to get inside his head.  I managed to let him get into my head on one stage at a recent match, and tried to burn the stage down, and had mikes all over the place.  After that stage, I turned on my ability to tune people out, and shot well the rest of the day.  

 

Try giving it back.  Find something they're self conscious about with their shooting, and point that out to them.  You can either give it back, or learn how to tune it out better.  Or just don't squad with those people.  One of the things that affects my shooting more than trash talkers is people who don't paste and reset.  I try to avoid shooting with them as much as possible.  

[Cuz]

Or you could just ask them to stop.

I've yet to see that not work.

[slowhands]

9 hours ago, DD78 said:

Trash talking is fun when you give it back.  In my experience, trash talkers can't handle it when you trash talk in return.  

 

One reason I like this sport, at least at the clubs I've shot at, is that the only trash-talking I see is back-and-forth between friends, and everyone is ultimately supportive. Great shooter tanks a stage? Yeah, they're probably gonna hear about it. But if a new shooter tanks a stage, you hear a lot of "hey, that happens to all of us sometimes" along with friendly advice. 

 

And when someone burns down a stage? Everyone's there to genuinely congratulate them, even the people who just got beat.

[TWHaz]

It falls under unsportsmanlike like conduct and should be brought the the MD’s attention. 

[Doge]

Ignore it and let your scores do the talking. 

[18111811]

run your bolt (slide) and not your mouth

[Ccampo1129]

Beat them in silence. Always does the trick. Just shoot them a wink after you kill a stage.

[GOF]

On 10/23/2020 at 7:37 PM, slowhands said:

 

One reason I like this sport, at least at the clubs I've shot at, is that the only trash-talking I see is back-and-forth between friends, and everyone is ultimately supportive. Great shooter tanks a stage? Yeah, they're probably gonna hear about it. But if a new shooter tanks a stage, you hear a lot of "hey, that happens to all of us sometimes" along with friendly advice. 

 

And when someone burns down a stage? Everyone's there to genuinely congratulate them, even the people who just got beat.

That is exactly how things go at the clubs I shoot it. I have run into a jerk every now and then, but peer pressure seemed to direct them to shoot elsewhere. The VERY VAST majority of the folks I've shot with over the last 20 years have been very fine folks who really wanted their fellow shooters to do well, and have a fun day. 

Trash talkers, at least in my experience, are an anomaly and deserved to be pointed out -- chastised -- and ridiculed.  

[38super]

Lose their score sheet

[joshdub84]

I enjoy banter - I typically shoot with the same two or three guys and then it's a revolving door of other shooters that we all at least know somewhat.  With my direct friends, we will obviously talk quite a bit more s#!t to each other and if anyone that's outside the direct group wants to participate, we will give them s#!t as well.

 

With that said, I've never come across anyone that was maliciously trying to get into someone's head.  I fee like, if I came across that scenario, I'd just plan to call them out in front of the whole squad.  Or, wait until they make a bonehead move and then really call them out.

 

I'm curious (and too lazy to go through the whole thread) if the parties involved know each other fairly well or if the other party thinks they're just having fun without realizing it's going too far.

[StefVanHauwe]

As soon as fellow shooters start to talk negative, regardless of the circumstances or topics, even if it's about them, I try once to turn the conversation into something positive. If that doesn't work, I courteously leave and avoid them. Especially during competitions there's no room for any type of negativity! Positivity is key!

[Scrounger]

On 10/13/2015 at 5:47 PM, MarkCO said:

Unless the person is the MD or RM, go find that person and ask them for assistance. I have been asked that by several shooters over the years. If I am feeling rather perky, I will ask the person politely to settle down. In one case, I gave the offender his $20 back and asked him to not return, he complied. In another case the offender did not comply, so I walked over to a county deputy who escorted him off the range.

I really like this advice. I’ve been fortunate and ignoring someone usually works, but I’ve heard stories from friends who’s matches have been ruined by hecklers/bad sports. 

[Dicktater_Pete]

On 10/13/2015 at 2:39 PM, FTDMFR said:

How do you guys deal with someone on your squad talking trash, not in a screwing around kind of way, but with genuine malice, trying to screw up your shooting? Like saying s#!t to you as you LAMR. Assuming you're stuck on a squad with them.

My current approach is to ignore them and shoot how I shoot, but sometimes I do let it affect my performance.

I've considered going full-on a_-hole mode and throwing it back x10, which would probably be fun, but it might also affect my performance.

What do you guys do?

Never go full hooah!

[Dicktater_Pete]

On 10/13/2015 at 11:08 PM, valerko said:

I've must be lucky. I never ran into dickhead at any shooting event. Lol

Tell me your next event, I'll be there in my competition tutu.  Shooting low scores of course.   

[Dicktater_Pete]

On 4/21/2021 at 12:27 AM, 38super said:

Lose their score sheet

Now that is a pro move.  Unless they scored poorly.  Then photocopy it and give everyone a copy

[Npoulson]

You will always find that one guy in a group in areas

its either jealousy or not happy at home so they want ppl around them miserable 

what i mean you come in shoot and in a few mo beating them type thing

ive encountered this

i just dont squad with that person and i started finding empty squads so whoever squads with me didnt get quote stuck with me

for the most part 99% of guys are cool with the same values 

doesnt matter the sport or hobby you will always have that guy

we arent meant to get along with everyone 

being 10x worse will indeed mess with you if you have good morals bc even though it was well deserved you will feel guilty 

i find confronting them if you cant get away from them calmly and just asking hey what is ur deal with me

99% of the time they will stammer all over and stop

hope this helps

and sorry to hear this is going on

i know it sucks being a tattle tale but that is unsportsmanlike conduct and a dq

its cool to have a squad of 12 buddies ragging on eachother but if its plain mean and hurtful no space for that here

 

[GunBugBit]

I haven’t encountered malicious trash talk for a long time.  I remember one time when a guy was ripping on each shooter’s stage plan as each guy was shooting.  Then it was his turn, and he was nothing special.

 

The younger shooters I’ve been encountering lately have all been well mannered.  Society is not going completely to hell.

[maur]

That sucks. Ive never really had this problem, everyone I've dealt with in this sport is super nice. Move to a different squad, politely tell them to stop (maybe they dont realize how bad it is), talk to md, and if it happens anytime during COF get the RO to give them a procedural