JimmyZip Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I went for it. Cool! I love mine even for plinking with a shottie. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WidowsSon683 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 I went for it. So, you took every other shell holder, moved it closer, marked the holes drilled em and screwed em in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Widows, I started from one end by putting one holder against the fabric edge. Then I figured how much to space off to make the next one touch. Space between pairs is stock spacing, and I can still do load-2 with the belt this way because of this space. I only ended up using 2 or 3 factory hole sets, all others were added to fit the pattern. The last holder at the other end is also touching the fabric edge. I ended up drawing it up on masking tape on the belt, measuring things with a right-angle and caliper, then using a punch and hammer to put in the new holes. With this spacing I was able to fit 12 holders, 24 shells on the 20 shell belt. The extra two holders sourced from: 1 - the spare it comes with, 1 - I bought two belts initially and took the spare from the second one. I also used a belt sander to remove material from the shell cups. Two reasons, one it allows the adjacent holders to be closer together (very important for load-4 I'm finding), two it slightly decreases retention (also important when trying to grab 4 shells off the belt at once). One thing I learned is that getting adjacent holders spaced properly is tricky. If you measure it out so they are touching with the belt flat, once you wear the belt the curvature separates them by quite a bit. So to measure it out you should work on it while curved - though it will never store flat again if you build it that tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbauer67 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Widows, I started from one end by putting one holder against the fabric edge. Then I figured how much to space off to make the next one touch. Space between pairs is stock spacing, and I can still do load-2 with the belt this way because of this space. I only ended up using 2 or 3 factory hole sets, all others were added to fit the pattern. The last holder at the other end is also touching the fabric edge. I ended up drawing it up on masking tape on the belt, measuring things with a right-angle and caliper, then using a punch and hammer to put in the new holes. With this spacing I was able to fit 12 holders, 24 shells on the 20 shell belt. The extra two holders sourced from: 1 - the spare it comes with, 1 - I bought two belts initially and took the spare from the second one. I also used a belt sander to remove material from the shell cups. Two reasons, one it allows the adjacent holders to be closer together (very important for load-4 I'm finding), two it slightly decreases retention (also important when trying to grab 4 shells off the belt at once). One thing I learned is that getting adjacent holders spaced properly is tricky. If you measure it out so they are touching with the belt flat, once you wear the belt the curvature separates them by quite a bit. So to measure it out you should work on it while curved - though it will never store flat again if you build it that tight. Would you mind sharing the approximate dimensions you used for hole spacing, I am going to do this same modification to my belt for Hard as Hell and Ironman. Since you have already done 90% of the leg work, and done very well i might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 0.97" C-C on close pairs, 1.47" C-C on spaced pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If somebody figures out a way to put Invictus Practical quads on the Chameleon belt, I will be very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbauer67 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Doesn't seem very hard, just bolt and els bracket onto the belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbauer67 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 0.97" C-C on close pairs, 1.47" C-C on spaced pair. Thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familyosmall Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Where can I order one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) I looked on behalf of a friend a while back and the website was nowhere to be found. Even a few EU-based shooting accessory distributors marked them as "unavailable"... I assumed they are now out of business. A pity - this was far and away the most cost effective way of carrying 26 extra shells. I guess I have a collectors item now Edited February 2, 2017 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddHatter Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 3 hours ago, familyosmall said: Where can I order one? I sent you a PM. I have one I would sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 That is a pity. It was good to have something that was a discount compared to traditional solutions that I could recommend to those new to 3gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, adamge said: That is a pity. It was good to have something that was a discount compared to traditional solutions that I could recommend to those new to 3gun. Have them post a "WTB" ad in the classifieds here... there are probably a lot of folks who picked one up for the same reason, but now have moved on to a shotshell carrier they find works better for them and thus would be willing to part with theirs for a modest price. The post above yours is an example. Edited February 5, 2017 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseTischauser Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I bought one 4-5 years ago when they first came out. It took a loooong time. So long I thought I got scammed and wrote it off as a lesson learned but then one day it arrived. Back then the stretchy belt was awesome but the load two clips were too narrow and too tight. I sold it. But I liked the stretchy belt so much I ordered just the belt 2-3 years ago and have attached my invictus practical 4Q caddies to it. The second shipment was much quicker. 2 weeks maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 2:00 AM, JesseTischauser said: I bought one 4-5 years ago when they first came out. It took a loooong time. So long I thought I got scammed and wrote it off as a lesson learned but then one day it arrived. Back then the stretchy belt was awesome but the load two clips were too narrow and too tight. I sold it. But I liked the stretchy belt so much I ordered just the belt 2-3 years ago and have attached my invictus practical 4Q caddies to it. The second shipment was much quicker. 2 weeks maybe Jesse, got a pic? There's been some similar Chameleon belt re-purposing posted here: http://forums.brianenos.com/index.php?/topic/237684-els-on-chameleon-chest-rig/#comment-2650274 The clips are too stiff and limited to load-2, but the belt is a nice unit and I'm sticking with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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