Jesse Tischauser Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 When looking in the rules for largest shot size, I found a couple of items. 5.5.7 All rounds loaded in the shotgun prior to the start signal must be of the same configuration (i.e. wad, velocity, propelant, pellet weight, pellet size, length, etc.). Violations may be subject o Rule 10.6.1. So if you stack some different loads in your preload, it's a match DQ for unsportsmanlike. Appendix E1: Ammunition 17. The Match Director and/or the Range Master may restrict the ammuniton to be used to certain maximum shot sizes or certain types for reasons of safety. Any such requirement is to be advised prior to the match dates. I'm good to go with whatever, all the big match rules I looked at was #6 max, but I'll be bringing some #4's just in case. This sort of ridiculousness is why all the shotgun matches avoid IPSC rules. Some of the most challenging fun in shot gunning is mixed load stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Can I mix heavy and light bird shot? Or does every round have to be exactly the same on each stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Can I mix heavy and light bird shot? Or does every round have to be exactly the same on each stage? All the rounds in the shotgun prior to the start signal must be the same. After the start signal, I do not find a prohibition on mixing loads within the main type (buck, slug, bird) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 The competitor briefing should be sent out shortly to all registered competitors through the email address you provided when you registered. Course descriptions are contained therein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredStone Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Question... I had to withdraw a couple months ago due to an event I am responsible for at my job that weekend. Does anyone know if I can get a refund of my entry fee, or do I just lose it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Question... I had to withdraw a couple months ago due to an event I am responsible for at my job that weekend. Does anyone know if I can get a refund of my entry fee, or do I just lose it? Please call Rockcastle and get that sorted out. They are handling that end of it. Did you follow your personal management link in Practiscore and withdraw already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredStone Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Yes, that is how I withdrew, didn't know who to contact to ask about a refund, or if I was entitled to one. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banger Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) Gamaliel will be present at the match. They are going to send out a preorder sheet on Monday. So if you do not want to ship ammo, this'll make that easy. Will there be any other vendors be at the match? Edited August 1, 2015 by banger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 2, 2015 Author Share Posted August 2, 2015 Gamaliel will be present at the match. They are going to send out a preorder sheet on Monday. So if you do not want to ship ammo, this'll make that easy. Will there be any other vendors be at the match? I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxymajor Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 On OPTION 2 start, Can you put one on the lifter? 8.1.1.2 Loaded (Option 2): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) empty and the action closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 On OPTION 2 start, Can you put one on the lifter? 8.1.1.2 Loaded (Option 2): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) empty and the action closed. [/size] Is the chamber empty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunCat Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Shotgun Ready Conditions: 8.1.1.1 Loaded (Option 1): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) loaded, hammer and/or sear cocked and safety catch applied (if the shotgun is designed to have one). 8.1.1.2 Loaded (Option 2): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) empty and the action closed. 8.1.1.3 Unloaded (Option3): fixed magazine must be empty, detachable magazines removed and chamber(s) must be empty. The action/bolt may be open or closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) You can always drop a round on the lifter in an empty chamber start. It's equivalent to having your mag tube loaded. The Chamber is still empty when the shell is on the lifter. Edited August 2, 2015 by Jesse Tischauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I believe empty chamber starts are only 8 in gun/tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 2, 2015 Author Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) I believe empty chamber starts are only 8 in gun/tube. It does not say that anywhere in the ruleset. All the answers I found in the IPSC Global village and which I got back from IPSC ROs indicate empty chamber starts allow 9 in the magazine tube only for Standard and Standard Manual. Open is 10 for detachable mags and 14 for fixed magazines. If someone has a rule citation I may have missed, please let me know. In Outlaw, the Option 2 start will be only 8 in the tube. Edited August 2, 2015 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxymajor Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) Looking at the rules speadsheet for standard, "initial load prior to start" - "Max of 9 rounds loaded" .... So nothing about them being in the tube. SO I AM ASSUMING YOU CAN PUT ONE ON THE LIFTER ON A EMPTY CHAMBER START. UNLESS stated in the stage brief??? On OPTION 2 start, Can you put one on the lifter? 8.1.1.2 Loaded (Option 2): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) empty and the action closed. Edited August 2, 2015 by roxymajor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 2, 2015 Author Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) Looking at the rules speadsheet for standard, "initial load prior to start" - "Max of 9 rounds loaded" .... So nothing about them being in the tube. SO I AM ASSUMING YOU CAN PUT ONE ON THE LIFTER ON A EMPTY CHAMBER START. UNLESS stated in the stage brief??? On OPTION 2 start, Can you put one on the lifter? 8.1.1.2 Loaded (Option 2): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) empty and the action closed. For now, I would not assume you can put a round on the lifter and be in compliance with the start conditions. If that changes and I have time to post it here, I will. In any event, the stage ROs will have clear direction on the allowable start conditions. Edited August 2, 2015 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Looking at the rules speadsheet for standard, "initial load prior to start" - "Max of 9 rounds loaded" .... So nothing about them being in the tube. SO I AM ASSUMING YOU CAN PUT ONE ON THE LIFTER ON A EMPTY CHAMBER START. UNLESS stated in the stage brief??? On OPTION 2 start, Can you put one on the lifter? 8.1.1.2 Loaded (Option 2): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) empty and the action closed. For now, I would not assume you can put a round on the lifter and be in compliance with the start conditions. If that changes and I have time to post it here, I will. In any event, the stage ROs will have clear direction on the allowable start conditions. We did at the last two Ipsc Pan Am Championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 2, 2015 Author Share Posted August 2, 2015 Looking at the rules speadsheet for standard, "initial load prior to start" - "Max of 9 rounds loaded" .... So nothing about them being in the tube. SO I AM ASSUMING YOU CAN PUT ONE ON THE LIFTER ON A EMPTY CHAMBER START. UNLESS stated in the stage brief??? On OPTION 2 start, Can you put one on the lifter? 8.1.1.2 Loaded (Option 2): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) empty and the action closed. For now, I would not assume you can put a round on the lifter and be in compliance with the start conditions. If that changes and I have time to post it here, I will. In any event, the stage ROs will have clear direction on the allowable start conditions. We did at the last two Ipsc Pan Am Championships. WADR, it is not what anyone did or did not do at another match. It is what is allowed under the current, 2015 ruleset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in TN Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Are there any events/festivities Sunday, or can I head home Saturday night? I'd hate to think it's all over only to find they're handing out Benellis like popcorn Sunday morning or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 Nothing currently planned for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Nothing currently planned for Sunday. Nashville here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Just to clarify, we shoot all day Friday and Saturday? I think I made hotel tesevarions around shooting in Saturday and Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 Just to clarify, we shoot all day Friday and Saturday? I think I made hotel tesevarions around shooting in Saturday and Sunday. That is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxymajor Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I have 3 cases of Winchester AAs 1145 fps- 1 1/8oz red, I would like to sell or trade. $7 per box/case price. Trade for AA 1200+ fps or Rem STS 1200+fps. UPC codes are cut out. I will bring to the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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