Retread1911 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 OK Gang I am building a 300 BLK upper in a Suppressed 8" build. I want the handgaurd to come down and cover the first few inches of the can thus it needs to be longer than 9 inches and have an inner diameter bigger than the outer diameter of the can which is 1.625 I have been looking at the Rock River parts and some of them I like the look of but they do not lock in place securely enough for my tastes. I do love the POF stuff but they don't sell just that part and I am not sure of the ID. So here is the question. What handgaurd locks in place with the Upper and has a Inner diameter of 1. 750 inches? OAL of the handgaurd also has to be longer than 9 inches. . . Thanks for any advice you have. Thanks in Advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Fortis makes large light hand guards but as hot as a silencer gets I'd be cautious about having it under a handguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Thanks for the Info . . . But the ID is not big enough according to their Web Site. http://fortismfg.com/ar15-fortis-REV-free-float-rail-system-12-forearm-12 I get the temp issue but that is not a concern in this build. GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 What do you guys think of the JP handgaurds. . . Pricy I know but rock solid, durable and most importantly the right size. http://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPHG-1M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Seekins mcsr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Great Suggestion on the MCSR. Have you ran one? Any movement out at the end? Link for anyone that wanted to look too: http://www.seekinsprecision.com/mcsr-v2-mod-rail.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I have not but a friend has. It's real solid. If I hadnt already bought the Samson Evo, the MCSR is what I would go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prreed10 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) I think the Samson Evo rails may be big enough. I have several of Seekins SPR3's and they mount up real solid. Edited October 26, 2014 by prreed10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyinTX Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Rainier arms Force handguards have inside big enough for your purposes. I've had mine since they came out and really like it. Very solid yet light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman4561 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I run a can under my Daniel Defense MFR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtaylor996 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 There's the aero COP M4 mono upper. I'm putting the carbine length one on order for my 8.5" blk build soon. Can't find the ID on it at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 There's the aero COP M4 mono upper. I'm putting the carbine length one on order for my 8.5" blk build soon. Can't find the ID on it at the moment. http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=272 Is the link to the 15 inch version. Yes it reports a 1.5 inch suppressor will fit nicely. and an ID of 1.8 inches. The biggest drawback is that it appears to require their upper. . . Direct quote from above link "This handguard does not come with a barrel nut to attach it to a standard upper. They will bolt directly to our M4E1 upper receiver." Perhaps there are others that don't require the dedicated hand guard. GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carharttfarmer Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Great Suggestion on the MCSR. Have you ran one? Any movement out at the end? Link for anyone that wanted to look too: http://www.seekinsprecision.com/mcsr-v2-mod-rail.html Rock solid on mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Great Suggestion on the MCSR. Have you ran one? Any movement out at the end? Link for anyone that wanted to look too: http://www.seekinsprecision.com/mcsr-v2-mod-rail.html Rock solid on mine Any one know a seller that has one? 12 or 15 inch would both be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carharttfarmer Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Great Suggestion on the MCSR. Have you ran one? Any movement out at the end? Link for anyone that wanted to look too: http://www.seekinsprecision.com/mcsr-v2-mod-rail.html Rock solid on mine Any one know a seller that has one? 12 or 15 inch would both be good. Joe Bob outfitters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtaylor996 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 There's the aero COP M4 mono upper. I'm putting the carbine length one on order for my 8.5" blk build soon. Can't find the ID on it at the moment. http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=272Is the link to the 15 inch version. Yes it reports a 1.5 inch suppressor will fit nicely. and an ID of 1.8 inches. The biggest drawback is that it appears to require their upper. . . Direct quote from above link "This handguard does not come with a barrel nut to attach it to a standard upper. They will bolt directly to our M4E1 upper receiver." Perhaps there are others that don't require the dedicated hand guard. GT Whoa, link went to the wrong place entirely. http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=58 Try this one. It's a monolithic upper, but it looks awesome on a BLK pistol: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11646828/AR-15Pistol.jpg So, yeah, I'm suggesting something that just mates with their upper because it is an upper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 There's the aero COP M4 mono upper. I'm putting the carbine length one on order for my 8.5" blk build soon. Can't find the ID on it at the moment. http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=272Is the link to the 15 inch version. Yes it reports a 1.5 inch suppressor will fit nicely. and an ID of 1.8 inches. The biggest drawback is that it appears to require their upper. . . Direct quote from above link "This handguard does not come with a barrel nut to attach it to a standard upper. They will bolt directly to our M4E1 upper receiver." Perhaps there are others that don't require the dedicated hand guard. GT Whoa, link went to the wrong place entirely. http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=58 Try this one. It's a monolithic upper, but it looks awesome on a BLK pistol: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11646828/AR-15Pistol.jpg So, yeah, I'm suggesting something that just mates with their upper because it is an upper. You are correct your pistol looks awesome! And the price is just a little more than the parts required combined. So can you do me one more favor? Can you measure the narrowest Inner diameter of yours at the barrel end? Thanks. George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gussers Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Seekins Precision makes one specifically for your application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtaylor996 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 You are correct your pistol looks awesome! And the price is just a little more than the parts required combined. So can you do me one more favor? Can you measure the narrowest Inner diameter of yours at the barrel end? Thanks. George. Unfortunately, that's not mine, just an image search from google. In the next few weeks I'll be ordering the upper kit. So I don't have anything to measure for you at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Seekins Precision makes one specifically for your application. http://www.seekinsprecision.com/parts-and-accessories/handguards/bar-hand-guards.html I really like this design and it is available currently so that is big bonus. Oh and Cheaper than Dirt is a dealer and close enough for me to go at lunch ::grin:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gussers Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yep. I have the 13" BAR and there should be plenty of room inside for a can. Take some pics when you have it all mounted. It's a 10 minute job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Well bummer. Cheaper than Dirt has moved their store to far away for a lunch run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 you doin a little SBR for the house? me too! picked up an 8.5" but I don't have a can, so running a short Samson rail till then. they say it doesn't come with a barrel nut since it uses the regular barrel nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 you doin a little SBR for the house? me too! picked up an 8.5" but I don't have a can, so running a short Samson rail till then. they say it doesn't come with a barrel nut since it uses the regular barrel nut Yes GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negative Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I have my 11.5 in 5.56 setup like this with a Seekins BAR. I still love the setup but sometimes I wish I hadn't forced myself to always run a can. I've run it pretty hard doing mag dumps, even ran it in a 3 Gun match. No temperature issues or anything else worth mentioning. It is just a solid all around home defense setup. I'm currently working on a 10" blackout with a flush mount can. The barrel had to be cut just right to fit it all together. We actually wound up destroying the MI handguard seen in this photo. It has since been replaced with a BCM Keymod, I don't have pics yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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