birwin45 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I have been doing some searching on this forum, thanks for all of the information. Does anyone use Tite Group and bayou bullets in these weights? The gun is a stock II and the reason I am asking about tite group is because it is the only powder I have been able to find locally. I am trying to make about 130 pf like almost everyone else that shoots production. Some cushion is also nice for the cold days that we experience. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBeazlie Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Titegroup works fine with bayou bullets. About 4 gr with 124s out of my G34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 3.7 gr under a Blue Bullets 125 gr coated RN gets me to ~130 pf out of an Accushadow. I can't imagine the Bayous are that much different that the other coated bullets, so if you started around 3.7 gr and chrono'd you should be GTG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birwin45 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Thanks TBeazlie and fish sticks. Is overall length dependent on the length of your chamber, or do you both have a specific length that seems to work better for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 OAL totally dependent on pistol. In my case, I'm shooting a CZ, so 1.10. Do a search on plunk test to determine your max and go from there. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 3.6-3.8gr of TG with a Bayou 124gr should get you there. 3.6gr TG under an SNS 125gr (same coating Bayou uses) at 1.085" OAL gets me 131PF in my CZ. Determining OAL: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=34225.msg189131#msg189131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 TG with Bayou 135 - 3.4g @ 1.135 = Avg PF of 133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingdog Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Bear in mind that the 124g profile will allow you to load as long as 1.169" (the max OAL for 9mm) in a CZ75. Bayou 135g, like the vast majority of the bullet profiles out there, requires you to load to 1.100 or shorter. The problem I found with loading that short with 9mm was that, because the case wall gets slightly thicker as you get closer to the base, I'd have far more rounds not pass case gage (I use the 100-rd hundo from Ben Stoeger's pro shop) than with rounds I could load to 1.150". We're talking 2-3 failures per thousand rounds loaded at 1.150" versus 3-4 failures per *hundred* when loaded to 1.100" or shorter. They run fine. You'll just end up pulling and remaking a lot more bullets. I've found the following bullets can be loaded as long as 1.160" and still have no problems with a CZ 75 barrel: Berry's 9mm RN (115g, 124g, 147g) Xtreme 9mm RN (147g .... ) Bayou 124g RN 3.9g has been good for me making PF with 124g Bayou @ 1.150" in a CZ75 SP01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicVerAZ Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Bayou 135g, like the vast majority of the bullet profiles out there, requires you to load to 1.100 or shorter. Whaaaat?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 125 TC Bayous on top of 4.0 grains of TiteGroup at 1.080" overall in Glock 17's with fitted and finished chambered BarSto barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugsy Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I've been using TG for a CZ 85C and 75 SP01 Shadowline for a while. Though Bayou bullets is not available here north of the border, I got good results in both lubed 135 gr LRN and 135 gr epoxy coated LRN. 3.2 to 3.6 gr allows consistent cycling for both pistols. Same load has been tried on a similar Stock II with no problem. I have no chrono so I cannot give you the PF rating. I am hoping that this will make it to at least 125 PF. I've seen posting from other forums that says 128-130 PF for a 3.6 gr TG on 125 gr LRN. Hopefully, I am on track to hit the minimum 125 PF using 135 gr bullet @ 3.2 - 3.6 gr TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorfish Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I'm getting 950.7 FPS (128 PF) loading 3.2 grains of Titegroup under a 135 grain Bayou RN bullet (1.1 OAL SD=5.5) CZ-75 SP01 Shadow measured at 60 degrees F. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerassassin22 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I use 135grn BBI with 3.5grns of TG at 1.138 gets me 135 out of my stock Glock 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 When it comes to 9mm, I prefer loading my bullets long (1.140" to 1.165") for reliable feeding. Bear Creek 135g and 147g lets you load em long, you use slightly less powder, with slighlty less felt recoil, for a win win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emjei Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Just tested some Bayou 135gr CZ Shadow OAL 1.135 TG 3.1 PF 128 They came out snappier than what I though......at least compared to 147 Mj Edited May 7, 2015 by emjei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gahunter12 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 My Glock 34 Gen3 loves 135gr Bayou Bullets over 3.4gr of Titegroup OAL: 1.158" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbyrd01 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 My Glock 34 Gen3 loves 135gr Bayou Bullets over 3.4gr of Titegroup OAL: 1.158" This is my load too, same gun but Gen4, and I'm at 1.120 OAL. Been thinking of going a little longer and seeing how they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank48 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Ordered 3300 135 gr round nose today at 14:25, I was notified by the Post Office at 16:45 that my bullets were on the way. I think that is called Great Customer Service. I have dealt with Bayou several times in the past and always been satisfied, but this time Donnie really exceeded my expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bshy01 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I wonder where are you guys getting your load data from? I'm trying to load SNS 9mm 125gr RN with Tightgroup in a glock 19. Hodgdons website states 3.6-4.0gr with 1.125 C.O.L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I wonder where are you guys getting your load data from? I'm trying to load SNS 9mm 125gr RN with Tightgroup in a glock 19. Hodgdons website states 3.6-4.0gr with 1.125 C.O.L. And that's in the ballpark - I load Hi-Tek coated or plated at 3.6gr of TG, but a bit shorter OAL. Coated or plated generally load closer to lead than jacketed, so the very bottom end of plated data in this case makes PF. I'm not sure I'm seeing any confusion here? The guys loading ~3.2gr are running heavier 135gr bullets.. Anyways, as stated, 3.6gr TG, 1.085" OAL, SNS 125r RNs net me a PF of 130-131. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 And that's in the ballpark - I load Hi-Tek coated or plated at 3.6gr of TG, but a bit shorter OAL.Coated or plated generally load closer to lead than jacketed, so the very bottom end of plated data in this case makes PF. I'm not sure I'm seeing any confusion here? The guys loading ~3.2gr are running heavier 135gr bullets.. Anyways, as stated, 3.6gr TG, 1.085" OAL, SNS 125r RNs net me a PF of 130-131. I'm also loading S&S 125 gr in a CZ, though my data is marginally different. 1.1 COAL 3.7 gr TG Comes in at 130 +/- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougump Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Does anyone happen to have a recipe for using TG with 124 and 135 Bayou Bullets out of a Tanfo Stock II? Currently I am shooting 147's and want to test out the others. Thinking that around 3.2-3.4 will be good for 135's and 3.6-3.8 for the 124s. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 If it is a coated lead bullet, you have to load them a lot shorter in some Tanfo's unless you get the barrels reamed since the wider profile contacts the rifling. I believe many folks load the 135g to 1.100" to 1.100" in the 3.2 to 3.4g range with titegroup to make over 130 PF. The 124g is the same oal but depending on your setup will require 3.7 to 4.0g to make over 130PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrongArm67 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I was having a very similar discussion over at the EAA specific section. I have some of the 135gr BBI and I had to take them down to 1.08 to fit my Stock 2 and I actually asked about having the throat reamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 It is worth it to get it reamed. However, even after it is reamed, I still have to load shorter than other platforms so the Tanfoglios limit how long I load my general use ammo. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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