fp45liberator Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Any idea who makes or where to purchase the factory basepads that come with the 9mm version? They look like the Arredondo International base pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Bird Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok, way TMI i am confused as hell. I just bought Armscor 51947 M1911-A2 Pistol Like all, I would like to up the capacity from 17 to at least 20. I have seen SVI-STI-GregC- PAra O- So which is the correct mag to get for the best reliability. Thanks in advance for enlightening me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 If your pistol has the factory mag well on it, you can use Mec-Gar 9-18 magazines. They are the same magazine that comes with the pistol from the factory less the base pad . Mec-Gar supplies the magazines to RIA. I just purchased 16 mags for myself and fellow shooters that jumped on the 9mm Tactical bandwagon. The pistol has to have the factory magwell !!!!! Dawson base pads will work to increase the capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 After all this info and a few emails to the companies selling mags and being told they will work %100 with 9mm. for my 51947 I got 3 nickel p-18 17rd mags without basepad and got 4 +2 para extensions to go on them plus the stock mag. Was about $105 shipped for all from numrich. I plan on primarily running 9mm so these should work fine and are a different color so easy to know which of my mags is for tcm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Let us all know how it works for you. Mag capacity , exc. Good luck and enjoy your 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't think those +2 basepads will work - i have some factory para mags with those basepads and they didn't. I'll try to swap the para tube for a mec-gar tube later tonight to see if the para pad has clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't think those +2 basepads will work - i have some factory para mags with those basepads and they didn't. I'll try to swap the para tube for a mec-gar tube later tonight to see if the para pad has clearance. Do you have a model with or without factory magwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Garmil - both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok darn I figured would have enough room with magwell. Not even close? Or do you think they may fit with some trimming or sanding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 I still haven't gotten to try it out - I'll go now. I trimmed and sanded some factory mec-gar P14 basepads that I had lying around and put them on the P18 mec gar mags and they fit. I'll try the para basepad/mecgar combo. BRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 You've got some trimming to do - On major problem is that you can't get the insert into the Mec-Gar magazine, as it is a few milimeters shorter than the factory para mag. The ribs in the mag tube interfere with the insert getting in. You'll have to get that to fit without affecting the integrity of the insert (we wouldn't want it to weaken and get in the way of a spring). Even without the insert, the base pad gets hung up with several milimeters to go. It is catching on the magwell. It will at best need to be reshaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Not what I wanted to hear lol. But thanks a lot for checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdrake2406 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 So are there some mags that for certain work with 51679? If they have basepads or not does not matter all that much to me. For now anything that holds 17 rounds in multiple mags works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 The mec-gar 17 round mag body is confirmed - that works. The one RIA supplies their guns with has an IPSC international sytle baseplate that works and fits in the magwell. If you have the standard mec-gar mag with the sheet metal floorplate it won't work, and will require you to change the baseplate or trim it. The Dawson precision basepad with arredondo spacer is confirmed to work in the mec-gar mag tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulbyte Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Hi guys, I just purchased the tactical 40 version #51782 with magwell. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if these mecgar 15 rounders will work. http://www.mec-gar.com/Magazines/Para-USA/MGP164015 I was able to purchase 6 ten round para mags recently off ebay and they seem to work fine. Also, I have a para p18.9, I bought four of the 38super/9mm canadian blued mags. With a little compression of the mag body at the base of the taper using four triangle files placed at the grooves and vice, plus ismi springs, I was able to feed 9mm reliably. I've been using these mags for the last year set up with dawson basepads and arendondo inserts, 100% reliable. I thought maybe this might help some of you 9mm guys. Edited November 4, 2014 by soulbyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Has anyone had luck with a sti 2011 holster? I'm looking at the sti tactical full rail holster for my ria the trigger guards are different so im wondering if the retention would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Has anyone had luck with a sti 2011 holster? I'm looking at the sti tactical full rail holster for my ria the trigger guards are different so im wondering if the retention would work. This is what I'm wondering too. The trigger guard is significantly wider and rounded off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DedOn Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Blade-tech actually makes a holster specifically for the RIA 2011 and it fits perfectly. I just got mine last week and it is really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Has anyone had luck with a sti 2011 holster? I'm looking at the sti tactical full rail holster for my ria the trigger guards are different so im wondering if the retention would work. This is what I'm wondering too. The trigger guard is significantly wider and rounded off. I'll let you know I just ordered one midway had it on sale along with some nice matching tak lok mag holders that should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajunautoxer Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I tried out a buddy of mine's Bladetech holster and it worked with no problem. IIRC retention was fine. I'll have to try it again soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Good to hear. Midway had it for $50 and blade tech comp mag holders for $10! Edited November 6, 2014 by Garmil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc5 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 For anyone with a 51687 .22TCM/9mm pistol, who may be as frustrated as I (still) am - Here's a few facts: The factory 17 rd mags (marked .22tcm) with flat sheet metal base pads, do function 100%. Also, the Dawson .200 base pads installed on these mags do NOT lock in place with or without a Dawson magwell. New style Para mags do NOT work as shipped - many rounds nosedive at base of chamber, but some tweaking of the mag lips MAY improve this problem (I have had some success, BUT Para mags are not 100% reliable at this point). 140mm STI mag locks in and feeds well, BUT must be sanded/filed to drop free. Brand new SV 140mm mag is a VERY tight fit in the gun and is difficult to remove - mag must be sanded to fit but I am hesitant to mod a new $130 SV mag ! I've also installed a Dawson fiber optic front sight with no issues and a RIA ambi safety (it was necessary to Dremel the right side lever to reduce annoying rub at base of my trigger finger). Last, a Dawson Para magwell fits and installs easily BUT the factory 17 rd mags won't work with magwell without some serious grinding on any base plate or base pad. All the above are FYI, may help but I'm suspicious that the RIA frame dimensions may vary a bit from gun to gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Blade-tech actually makes a holster specifically for the RIA 2011 and it fits perfectly. I just got mine last week and it is really nice. Would that be the one listed as 5" w/rail DS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DedOn Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The only place I could find it is on the blade-tech website. Go to OWB Holsters and manufacturer is 1911, then gun model the very last option is Rock Island 2011 tactical. The you get color, left/right hand and attachment. I got the tech-lock and like how easy it is to get on an off, especially if you don't have an inner/outer belt yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIIID Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 mwc5 Adjust the frame for the S-I mag tubes, not each mag tube. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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