fp45liberator Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Anyone have any experience with the TCM/9mm pistol? I'm wondering who makes a decent extended mag release and ambi safety for this? I'm assuming its a Para Ord style frame, but wondering if anyone knows for sure or has done something similar? I'm interested in setting this up for Limited. Also, anyone have a line on grips for this? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I know Mike Seekland was testing some of their pistols recently and was impressed with their performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I have a .22TCM/9mm that I use for 3Gun and other matches It is a Para frame. Any Ambi safety can be fitted and will probably need some fitting I have a Wilson and it needs some fitting Gun Craft makes an extended Mag release https://www.dawsonprecision.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=MAGAZINE+PARTS:Para+Ordnance Grips- Most Para p14/16/18 should fit. you can order the VZs from Armscor https://us.advancedtactical.com/shop/product-detail/vz-operator-grips-1911-a2-fs/ Good: trigger is 3.5 lbs can take modified STI Mags (have to relieve some material) Not a bad shooter Not so Good: Accuracy with 9mm barrel. barrel hood is significantly thinner than the breechface so lockup suffers. I can move the barrel when it is in battery. No idea about the .22 barrel as I'm not interested in it. I just sent it back to Armscor to see what they say. My suggestion would be to sign up for the stock notices on the 2011 Tac Hi Cap 51679 https://us.armscor.com/products/tac-2011-hi-cap-9mm This one probably has a dedicated slide, etc. Some just showed up the other day at davidsons or grabagun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Interesting. I picked one up and shot it yesterday - I didn't notice any play in my 9mm barrel when in battery. I'd love to find a 51679 - but I'm concerned about finding mags for it. What magwell do you think is on that thing? Did you put a magwell on your TCM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) I'm glad yours did not have the same issue. Sign up at grabagun and gungenie for stock notifications. Like I said - there were some last week. you can fit a Dawson magwell for para on the RIA http://www.dawsonprecision.com/CategoryProductList.jsp?cat=MAGWELLS%2C+MAIN+SPRING+HOUSINGS+AND+BACKSTRAPS:Magwell+Para+Ordnance+HiCap The dawson extra capacity basepads might not fit depending on your mag. Dawson has the info on their site. I have the older one not the newer ICE which should also fit. since the 51679 comes with a magwell you could try asking armscor when they might be available or keep an eye on the Para pro shop. The items look very similar I also have +200 or .300 dawson basepads that do not add capacity to clear the magwell. Mags you can find here http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=97_152 Or you can buy some STI mags and do some filing/sanding. I did and get 23 with TTI spring/follower/basepad Edited August 31, 2014 by theKenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I ordered a 2011 Armscor#51679 from Tombstone tactical on Friday. I called armscor to ask where to find mags, they sent me to a website (tactical something??).. The mags I saw were the ones they send with the Tcm combo pistols, so im not sure how they will work with the magwell that comes on the 51679.. We shall see and I will get some rounds through it and work up a range report. I will probobaly set mine up with STI mags for some lim minor and Steel games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Chanman They probably meant https://us.advancedtactical.com/shop/product-detail/22tcm-mecgar17-round-fs-magazine/ you can get the same mags from greg cote. looking forward to the range report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Chanman They probably meant https://us.advancedtactical.com/shop/product-detail/22tcm-mecgar17-round-fs-magazine/ you can get the same mags from greg cote. looking forward to the range report Thanks Kenny, Yes that was the site that Armscor told me to use to buy mags. Do you have any pics of yours with the Dawson .200\.300 pads seated in your gun? I may just run those in keeping with the idea of a budget limited gun.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Sorry, no pics at the moment, gun is back at armscor. Remember, mine is a different model without the factory magwell. I would get a few more mags first and see how they work with the factory magwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 How are you planning on running STI mags through this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1time Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Someone makes a mag release that works for STI/SVI mags. When I ordered the pistol I ordered the part. The pistol never came in so I got an STI. If one of you would like the mag release I would be willing to exchange it for good karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) 1time, is it from Canyon Creek? GunCraft also makes one https://www.speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?id=GCPMRB&n=Gun-Craft-Para-Ordnance-Mag-Release-Blue However, the stock one has been fine for me. this is a standard 140mm STI mag in mine after some fitting. The mag itself needs to be reduced from about the mag catch to the mag lips. short clip showing function http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr307/rdeschain/th_rockisland_001_001_003_001_zps3d6b7603.mp4 Edited September 1, 2014 by theKenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 I can offer karma and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fp45liberator Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 In stock and ordered - http://grabagun.com/armscor-island-51679-m1911-tac-2011-9mm.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 In stock and ordered - http://grabagun.com/armscor-island-51679-m1911-tac-2011-9mm.html Good for you. A review/range report would be appreciated when you get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1time Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 1time, is it from Canyon Creek? GunCraft also makes one https://www.speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?id=GCPMRB&n=Gun-Craft-Para-Ordnance-Mag-Release-Blue However, the stock one has been fine for me. this is a standard 140mm STI mag in mine after some fitting. The mag itself needs to be reduced from about the mag catch to the mag lips. short clip showing function http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr307/rdeschain/th_rockisland_001_001_003_001_zps3d6b7603.mp4 I'm not sure. I bought it two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1time Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I can offer karma and money. PM or email your name and address. It will probably be Thursday before I can get it shipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMike Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Chanman They probably meant https://us.advancedtactical.com/shop/product-detail/22tcm-mecgar17-round-fs-magazine/ you can get the same mags from greg cote. looking forward to the range report Thanks Kenny, Yes that was the site that Armscor told me to use to buy mags. Do you have any pics of yours with the Dawson .200\.300 pads seated in your gun? I may just run those in keeping with the idea of a budget limited gun.. The mags at Greg Cote are $21.95 each vs $34.95 at Advanced Tactical. Greg also sells a base plate that adds +2 for $9.95 but he is currently out of those. I just bought one of these guns. I haven't had time to take it to the range but a buddy has one and he says it is an extremely flat shooting pistol and I can see why, the pistol weighs 46 oz. without the mag. It does have some sharp edges that you wouldn't find on a pistol costing 3-4 times more. Overall, the pistol appears to offer a lot for the price. Trigger pull on mine measures out to an average of 4.25 lbs and is better than I thought it would be. The price grabagun is selling at is a fantastic price. I wouldn't expect to find it any cheaper than that. I had to pay a bit more for mine, Armscor is offering a $50 rebate on these for purchases made through 10/15/14. The guy I bought mine from claims that he was told RI is only manufacturing 12 of these a month. I do find it curious that they don't make these in 40SW. That makes no sense to me. I hope to go shoot it tomorrow. Edited with strike throughs because of inaccurate information. Sorry guys. Edited September 2, 2014 by JMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 40 is listed https://us.armscor.com/products/tac-2011-hi-cap-.40sw and 10mm https://us.armscor.com/products/tac-2011-vz-10mm Jmike, link for baseplate? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMike Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I forgot to ask, does anyone know of good non-race holster option for this pistol? I had a spare Ghost Stinger for a STI but it doesn't fit this pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMike Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 40 is listed https://us.armscor.com/products/tac-2011-hi-cap-.40sw and 10mm https://us.armscor.com/products/tac-2011-vz-10mm Jmike, link for baseplate? Thanks Well damn! I looked all over their website the other day and could only find the 9mm, 45 and 10mm. http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 40 is listed https://us.armscor.com/products/tac-2011-hi-cap-.40sw and 10mm https://us.armscor.com/products/tac-2011-vz-10mm Jmike, link for baseplate? Thanks Well damn! I looked all over their website the other day and could only find the 9mm, 45 and 10mm. http://www.gregcotellc.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=841 That basepad will not fit the mags for this pistol. Says so in the description and I can confirm as I have it on my cz mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMike Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I dunno, maybe I am missing something but I don't see where it says they won't fit. I am not saying your wrong and I am right, I am just saying I am not seeing it. I'll give Greg a shout to get the definitive answer and repost here. Thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theKenny Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 jmike, look for a 2011/STI/SVI holster for 5in Full rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMike Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Thanks Kenny! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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