copecowboy22 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I shot my first major this weekend. It was only my third match. I've heard the phrase about 2 types of shooters. (Some see where this is going and are already laughing). I was one of the guys that thought "I'll never do it, I've been around guns most of my life. I'll prove them wrong." Well get ready to laugh. I shoot single stack so moving and reloading are a neccesity. Last stage of the Double Tap Championship and I'm moving right to left after my first position. Drop mag, check. Insert new mag, STOP. I look down and my gun is about 5 degrees past 180. "everyone point and laugh now." So guess what I'll be practicing in the coming weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitsapshooter Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 LOL,you goofed, Bro I am sorry it happened at a major match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag316 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I don't think we're going to point and laugh. We've all either seen it or done it or done something similar. While it's not true that everyone has been DQ'd, many people in our sport have. Hopefully, they take it as the learning experience it's meant to be and do what you're doing--practice ways to keep it from happening again. I've been DQ'd twice--once for dropping a loaded gun during a stage and once for breaking the 180. The 180 violation was my first, and I learned to be very wary of where the 180 is when I'm shooting the stage. The dropped gun was something I'm not sure I could have avoided very well--I was clearing a jam during summer and the gun was slick with my sweat and oil. It was a mistake, pure and simple. I've learned to work on clearing jams as safely as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I've come close to the 180 a dozen times - esp running right to left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I try to never reload moving right to left unless I have no choice, way too easy to break the 180. I also know a 5-division Master who DQed at the Nationals for a 180 break .... It happens Edited June 16, 2014 by Nimitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdmjohn Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Happened to me at my first area match,only 3 stages in. I feel your pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyChris Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I shot Double Tap on Friday, first major for me as well. Stage 11 almost got me, reloading running right to left... the peanut gallery mumbled, I was close but luckily didn't break it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 We had a guy break the 180 while reloading moving right to left this past weekend. I try my best to plan the stages so I will move left to right when I have to reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copecowboy22 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 It was stage 11. Shot through the port. Missed the steel enough to run it dry. More focused on making sure I drop the slide and 180 went to the back burner in my mind. The point and laugh was referring to my attitude that I'd never do it. I've replayed what I could've done different 1000 times or more already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag316 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I reload moving right to left all the time. I just turn my upper body so the gun points downrange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm300 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 If you have to move the wrong way when you are going to reload you have to get it in your plan early and every time you walk it, visualize it etc you have to practice moving the gun downrange during the reload. Another place to pay a lot of attention to is ports on or close to the 90 with targets that make you get into the port. I have seen way to many people go in, shoot, and leave before their gun clears the port. Gun hits port, shooter is moving downrange, gun breaks 180. When I first walk up to a stage one of the things I am looking for is places that will get me in trouble. That needs to be in your mind when you do your stage plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copecowboy22 Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 It was definitely a learning experience. Now I know what to look for in my stage plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreGarciaTAT2 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 My very first match, the very first shooter that I ever saw shoot a stage... Busted the 180 after his first 6 shots. And he did a full fledged pirouette! Seeing that right away really ingrained it into my head... And so far, so good! I didn't choose the Glock life, the Glock life chose ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exmr2sw Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No laughing here.. Im sure you LEARNED a hard lesson and wont do that again!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copecowboy22 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 I learned a big lesson and should've known better. But the day was going good and I was pushing it trying to go a little faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kooyahdesigns Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Atleast its an experience you will not forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheshaw Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I almost did the same thing this past Tuesday. I did a reload that I would saw was about 165-170, but it was still too close for comfort and I got called out on it. Even though I didn't cross the 180, it still felt like I did and I won't come close to it from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynes_world_45 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 As a beginner if you must move right to left reload and then run. Some guys say that's faster anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phidelt208 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I square my shoulders to the 180 line as much as I can, that really helps me keep my gun pointed down range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalaikanui Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 At the risk of stating the obvious... (clarification for new shooters) the perspective of many of these posts is that of Right Handed shooters (moving right to left likely will position the muzzle in a precarious position during reload - would be the reverse for Lefties) . The message to take away is; while walking (planning) your stages, concentrate not only on target engagement but how to best position yourself to safely and efficiently execute the course of fire. Some stages cause you to "break tradition" [reload while moving ect] or pump the brakes in trade for avoiding that DQ... Whether you're moving right to left or visa versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 At the risk of stating the obvious... (clarification for new shooters) the perspective of many of these posts is that of Right Handed shooters (moving right to left likely will position the muzzle in a precarious position during reload - would be the reverse for Lefties) . The message to take away is; while walking (planning) your stages, concentrate not only on target engagement but how to best position yourself to safely and efficiently execute the course of fire. Some stages cause you to "break tradition" [reload while moving ect] or pump the brakes in trade for avoiding that DQ... Whether you're moving right to left or visa versa. another message: practice reloading while moving in both directions in dryfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 At the risk of stating the obvious... (clarification for new shooters) the perspective of many of these posts is that of Right Handed shooters (moving right to left likely will position the muzzle in a precarious position during reload - would be the reverse for Lefties) . The message to take away is; while walking (planning) your stages, concentrate not only on target engagement but how to best position yourself to safely and efficiently execute the course of fire. Some stages cause you to "break tradition" [reload while moving ect] or pump the brakes in trade for avoiding that DQ... Whether you're moving right to left or visa versa. another message: practice reloading while moving in both directions in dryfire yep, just one more thing to practice. Sometimes a reload while moving right to left is neccesary. Damn left-handed stage designers getting back at us for all the right hand biased stages.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTDMFR Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Ugh. Reloading while moving right to left (as a righty) is a DQ deathtrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbie Shooter Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Which is why southpaws dread the stages where you do the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 If y'all would've learned to use the correct hand, it wouldn't be a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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