IHAVEGAS Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) SOME of the M and GM's I noticed are a bunch of prima donnas. Last level 2 match I was at had your local M's and GM's and also one world class shooter. Seems like the prima donna thing pretty much vanishes when there is a shooter present who is winning almost every stage by a respectable margin. That said, most of the M and GM folks I have met are very helpful and fun to shoot with. Edited June 29, 2016 by IHAVEGAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 SOME of the M and GM's I noticed are a bunch of prima donnas. I have tagged people over the years as such and have been surprised the next time i shot with them. You cant judge a book by its cover for sure, and sometimes come across someone who just had a bad stage or day and are processing it. If an individual is consistently a prick over time, I just avoid contact. You would be surprised how much knowledge people will offer up, just don't look for it while the are in their pre stage routine or after a disaster. After a good run seems to be the best time to chit chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboy69 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 SOME of the M and GM's I noticed are a bunch of prima donnas. I have tagged people over the years as such and have been surprised the next time i shot with them. You cant judge a book by its cover for sure, and sometimes come across someone who just had a bad stage or day and are processing it. If an individual is consistently a prick over time, I just avoid contact. You would be surprised how much knowledge people will offer up, just don't look for it while the are in their pre stage routine or after a disaster. After a good run seems to be the best time to chit chat. That's why I said SOME. The one M was a real jerk the first time I shot with him. (When this happened, I am a B class shooter asking a M class shooter like 3 or 4 questions.) He just went off on me, Why do you have popple holes, why is your gun 2 tone, why do you shoot coated bullets my gun will never see them. Just totally busted my balls. AND in front of people. I said one, if I pay good money I want my gun to look good. #Two it had popple holes when I bought it. #three, I'm trying the coated bullets and I like them. I have no issues with them. The next time I shot with him and beat him on like 4 stages, he was giving me some little tips and we actually did some stage planning together. BUT some are like that all the time. So I just don't talk to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Everybody shoots with better shooters, unless they're "The Boss" at all matches at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWprotected Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I generally shoot with the same group of guys all the time. There are pros and cons, we have a lot of fun and give each other grief but we also will be honest in our feedback about how a stage run looked and where we may each get better. Sometimes it doesn't need to be a better shooter to give a tip that will help you get better. If I have the chance to squad with someone who beats me regularly I try to watch what they do and learn from it. I don't usually ask a lot of questions during a stage I may ask between stages if I see them do something I don't understand, I find this lets them have time after they shoot to get their self together after they shoot and not feel pressured. I try to remember that the shooters who are really good still feel pressure because they are expected to perform at a high level, even if its self imposed expectation and sometimes when they are not meeting these expectations they may come across a little harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunnuts Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I shot the DPMS TriGun years ago. Each squad had a PRO on it. One year we had a "PRO" we never heard of. He was not having a good day and let the squad know it. We just ignored him for the match. Next year we had a PRO I had not heard of. Taran Butler. Guy was extremely helpful even to the point of walking over and offering advice. When I told him thanks and relayed the story about the the other pro from the previous year he shook his head and said " We are here to encourage newer shooters and promote the sport. Not everyone understands that. Great guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DASR4 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 i like shooting with better shooters, it makes me try to step up my game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The only way to shoot. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) I ALWAYS prefer to shoot with better shooters. It helps me with my game and pushes me too shoot better. When I am in a shooting squad, I learn from those better than me, and although I may not be up to the skill levels that they are at, I continue to push to achieve that goal. Edited November 12, 2016 by abb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kells81 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I like shooting with the better shooters because I am fairly new at it and could use all the help I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider26 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Quote I like to shoot with people that are better than me, not hard to find by the way. One of my friends made GM today at our match. Very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalRex Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 When I first started shooting competitively everyone was waaaay better than I was. After about 6 months I started shooting regularly with some very experienced shooters and I immediately began to improve at a faster rate. Not only would these guys give me tips but I would watch the way they approached things. One of the first things I noticed was their pre-buzzer routine - it was the same every single string. As a reformed golfer that made a lot of sense to me because you do the same thing before every stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 study people breaking down stages is a great advantage of being with good shooters, and then apply only that which you can execute, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 ^^^This! I am pretty poor at stage design and like to see what the more experienced shooters will do and tweak my plan accordingly. In every hobby I’m involved in I always will try to perform up to the next level. The key is to not shoot “out of your shoes” and try to go too fast or be like the top shooters. It’s a fine line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberTwo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 So very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudreaux78 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Shot with three GMs this past weekend at the Nationals. Great group of guys who didn’t hesitate to answer a question when asked. Pointers here and there and really helped me get out of my own way. The biggest thing is they have tried, failed, tried again and succeeded. They know what it takes to be successful. Listen and learn from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Boudreaux78 said: Shot with three GMs this past weekend at the Nationals. Great group of guys who didn’t hesitate to answer a question when asked. Pointers here and there and really helped me get out of my own way. The biggest thing is they have tried, failed, tried again and succeeded. They know what it takes to be successful. Listen and learn from them. Good advice. I wouldn’t try to shoot like they do, just learn and shoot your game. Then the advice they give will be what you really need and not how to clean up the mess you made of the stage trying to shoot like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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