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  1. try not to anticipate. Rather clear your mind and think about nothing but waiting to react to the “B” in beep when the timer goes off. —Steve Foster advice. Works very well.
  2. same here, both barrels. Very good product
  3. I drilled holes and used screws. Worked very well
  4. NICE. I really do love watching your stuff on facebook. Thats an area I want to get to so bad. May have the wife convinced after showing some pics and video. Best of luck to you man. I cant do the Iron Sights at all, I get two plates in my vision unless I close one eye. Envy you guys that can, cause I think they can be faster in this game!
  5. Being an unconscious performer is a RESULT of that developing and training the best techniques and processes that yield the best and most consistent results. An unconscious execution isn't necessarily a process or technique in itself as much as it is the result you mention. Unless its that format of thinking that gets you there...lol. I think we agree, just in different wordings. Just know the execution, in whatever form is not the technique nor process, its the result of these things. Understanding things at a scientific level is fine in application to evaluating and forming technique and process and evaluating the execution is how to determine if its fruitful. Analyzing the linguistic description of how the mind understands the performance from a proper language use is a fine line that's easily confused and will vary from person to person within their personal interpretations of the English language or how they appeal to reference, inference, or metaphor. So lets say this. I believe we agree. Meaning I agree what you think is what works for you and you should embrace it. My caution would be imposing the same type of thinking on others. Such as in advice mode with a friend, or as a coach, or even as innocent as a public shooting forum thread. Challenging someone to distrust their understanding of their execution with differences in language use or specific scientific detail may cause them to distrust their subconscious taking over the job of execution. Good execution simply CAN NOT occur in a thinking/evaluating state of mind. It CAN'T. You must allow your body to do what you have trained it to do in practice. (For God's sake don't confuse this with muscle memory, because there is NO SUCH THING, nor the weird electrical impulse thingy). We train our brains in practice what to do to achieve a goal we desire. We perform, evaluate the performance, and attempt to hone techniques. We are never able to hone the execution. The execution is a result. Through practice, we train our brain how to tell the body to do many things. Practicing some of them in small detail. But in the end, we cannot cognitively control all the movements going on in our body. At some point, for it all to work together, we have to turn it over to the brain to operate everything we have independently trained it to do, from trigger pull, to hip movement, to sight alignment, all at the same time. This requires turning off the analytical/thinking part of the brain to operate on its own, or subconsciously. This requires trust. Most of this trust comes from repetition or having done whats being asked in the same environment. The brain has seen us do something correctly 100s of times, it knows how to execute that. If we apply stress, always in the form of outcome, that's our thinking part trying to control execution. That part of the brain SUCKS at execution. So we have to build the trust in practice, repetition, AND understanding. If you tell someone they are not doing what they think they are doing, and they value your opinion, you might have just wrecked their ability to trust allowing the subconscious state to take over. I think that's what I'm getting at with you, not that you are in any way wrong, or that we disagree. I think you will rise above needing such specifics if you stay with the game. its like the line in the Matrix, "Neo, I'm telling you when you are ready, you wont have to. [dodge bullets]" Thanks for the discussion. Love different perspectives. Ben Edit - awe hell!! I know who you are!! Like Steve says, Steel Challenge is a small world! The best to you!
  6. Ok, fair enough. Getting into science always requires a grain of salt though. You make an extremely good point in saying you're not sure people are doing what they think they are doing. And you go on to quote a bunch of science I too once educated myself about for the exact purpose of learning to shoot faster. So what I will say further is NOT in disagreement with you. Your point is valid and your science fact. So let's move the conversation to what's actually important. You said you are undecided on things. Many are about many things. I think we all are, at least at some point in time. Let's define first, and hopefully agree on, what's actually important: Understanding what you are doing, or your ability to do it? We walk around all day without a scientific understanding of how we are doing it. We do several things on a subconscious level. Funny enough, some things, like maybe walking, if we try to think about how to do it while doing it we might trip and fall! Somewhere in here I would repeat what I have had coaches, senseis, and teachers say, "KISS, Keep it simply stupid." Obviously we aren't stupid, but the idea is applying to much cognitive thought to something physical requiring the body to do many things at the same time. This is best accomplished at a subconscious level. So what is important is ability to execute above all. So if the ability to execute is most important, is that all we care about? Obviously not, because we have to train ourselves, body and mind, to execute what we desire ourselves to accomplish. Examining scientific fact is interesting. And it can assist in learning. But we have to get past that to accomplish execution. If we are thinking about how the eye works, or how the body interprets vision, we are thinking too much. If that information leads us to a way to train, great. Unfortunately, my opinion came to be this particular knowledge did not. If anything it attempted to undermine what I thought I was doing. Therefore it became a distraction of sort. So you would be correct by implying we may not actually scientifically doing what we are saying we are doing. But what's important, the ability to execute, right? Surely you see where I might be going with this. So, if as your coach, I tell you to line up on Five to Go and think about being submerged in a vat of thick oil while you move fluidly from plates 1 to 4 and imagine pushing and pulling the gun through the oil smoothly without ratcheting or stopping and starting so the gun simply cuts and even, fluid wake through the oil that may seem slower than you are used to. You do as I ask. I ask you how it felt. You say, slower. I show you the timer and its .25 a second faster than you have ever shot the stage before. You shockingly repeat, it felt slower. Lets admit, this is an example. Not everyone thinks the same and not every form of thought or motivation works for everyone. Had this not worked, we would move on to another approach. But hopefully for the sake of conversation, we can accept this example to make a point. The point being would it have worked better had I overloaded the mind with what I want your shoulders to be doing, your arm muscles to be doing, your hands to be doing, your trigger finger to be doing, your wrist position, where your eyes should be and where they should be going when, what your knees should be doing, your legs, your head, etc.? Maybe, but I doubt it. The idea is to enter a method of thinking that supports your execution, no matter what it is. If you get into reading mental approach books they get into affirmation statements or mental ques or even physical gestures that remind the brain of a time when doing what you want to do well. At one point in time when I started a flight I would say to myself, "I love white steel plates." twice to myself, then align on the cone. During my preshot routine at one point I would tell myself "I love pink and white unicorns." It was silly, and the silliness relaxed me. But unicorns had nothing to do with my execution. Nor does knowing words like saccades or flutter or understanding mental visual fill ins. Nothing wrong with knowing that information and I'm not shading it in any way, but I would recommend stopping your evaluation at questioning what you are doing. That's when you enter the area of Beavis and Butthead forgetting how to pee cause they thought about it! LOL, if you don't get that reference, the same as above such as walking. If you really want to experiment with it, try descending a staircase at a quick pace and halfway down try to think about even left, right, left, right! Or worse, what your legs are doing. Careful with that experiment, but I think I've made my point. Its ok to be thinking about something, as long as its working for you. If its a distraction to learn that its not accurate, likely you have moved up a level and need a new thing to think about. I moved on from loving white plates and unicorns when I learned to literally think about nothing but the "B" in the Beeeeeep of the timer. The next hope is to learn to actually think about nothing at all - complete unconscious execution. We have all been there, "in the zone," but to call upon it or do it every time, even under stress, is a feat within itself. And it simply isn't achieved by thinking about what we are doing in a scientific way. Do what works for you and don't second guess yourself, that's the absolute worse thing to do. Even if you suspect something is "wrong" or "not the way," accept that is the way you are doing it today, and know you will move on from it. If you question your literal understanding of things, you will learn to distrust yourself, making achieving unconscious execution more difficult. Learn to trust yourself and your understanding of things to be valid, because at some point you will have to let the unconscious part take over. If I haven't mentioned it before, the best information on the planet about mental approach is actually in a book, "The Inner Game of Tennis" by Timothy Gallway. For reference, there is only ONE short chapter actually about tennis!! lol. There are others and many, but this one, in my opinion, is absolute must read for high level competition. I have repeated some of the ideas here in the form of my understanding. I've read this book three times and often listen to the audio form when I drive or go to bed. The idea of the OP, analyzing what we are actually doing is right up the mental approach alley and well discussed in this book. Cannot recommend it enough. Best of luck!
  7. Help me understand. What facts did I misrepresent and what claims did I falsely make, please? My attempt was at reality for the benefit of upcoming shooters attempting to learn. You MUST be able to accept and admit how much the game has changed, outdating the material in your book (of which I DID read, twice early in my learning process) and that some of which was not widely accepted in the first place. Honestly, it might be time for another one. I liked your style and approach, however some of the information was arguable that you claimed to be fact or opinions on execution not widely accepted at the time, nor certainly now. I am in no position wanting to argue, you are free to write or say whatever you wish, the same as I. Like you said you not minding my disagreeing with you, I do not mind being corrected where I am wrong, even challenging a differing opinion. I am big enough to accept rightful correction AND learn from it. i have no disrespect for you. I own your book in both soft cover and Kindle and I own all eight Steel Challenge banners. I am well read in what you have written both in the book and here. I am well practiced with your banners, to the extent they were useful. I am also IN the community and know your impact within it. So if you should be able to endure, please straighten my facts and counter my claims. I am also big enough to admit when I'm wrong, if adequately shown to be.
  8. ok. Let’s get next level here. On #2. I’m gonna put this out there and you’re either going to be able to grasp it, or not. People will likely debate what I’m about to say, but they would be wrong. Modern steel challenge transitions, at the top level, are NOT done this way. This is how we are taught to do Gun transitions. It’s slow. It’s called ticking, or ratcheting, or chasing, or whatever. That method causes stopping and starting of the gun. Which is slow. And actually harder. The top shooters are using a method I personally call fluid motion. The eyes are staying with the gun, on sight. If irons, never leaving the front sight. If dot, never leaving the dot. Some minds just started to blow reading that. But it’s the truth. Moving the gun fluidly will feel slower, but produce faster, more reliable or repeatable times. Warning, this technique is NOT easy to learn. Not because it’s hard, but because it’s a change from the conventional. Either believe me, or don’t. Either way, this is how the top shooters are shooting. on #4, just note, it’s not always off the stop plate. Smoke = stop plate. Speed option might be plate 2. Pendulum might be plate 2 or 3 or stop depending on you. Roundabout and left showdown might be plate 3 or stop. 5 to go might be plate 4, some suggest stop plate, but I would advise against that. Accelerator might be plate 3, or the stop. Part of this technique is your comfortability factor. You will come to know these things change with your skill improvement. And that’s ok. Don’t try to think of things as being set in stone. I’ve shot with literally the best in the sport, and they do different things that work for them. I shot with Chris Barrett at area 5. Among several things, he shot pendulum right to left. Told me I should try it sometime. He was sub 2’s. I tried it in next practice. Wasn’t for me! Lol. Might be later. But not right now. Do what works for you as long as you are progressing.
  9. Ok, for reference, I am a GM in RFRO, PCCO, and RFPO, and a former scholastic team coach. I don't say that to toot any horn, but for knowledge reference because I would really like to see you get your son on the right direction. I started with a 15-22, and made GM with it with a cheap Bushnell TRS-25. The best thing about these rifles is, if you don't mess with them, they run near 100 percent. If you want by and shoot, this is definitely the way to go. Allchin makes a comp specifically for it so the timer picks up the shots correctly. This is a must. It will run most AR15 triggers, I had very good luck with a Geisslle. I ran a CMORE on mine at its peak. Maybe a Tandemcross extractor, but NOTHING ELSE. I have come to the opinion through extensive experience with others, these guns, likely due to being plastic, do not like being taken apart. Just shoot it and shoot it and shoot it. LOVED mine. Eventually had to go lighter. Whatever you do, DO NOT go Volquartsen barrel. I have NEVER seen one run the same after someone installing one, even if they go back to the original barrel. Hence, my opinion on the guns not being liked being taken apart. Being that you have a 10/22 barrel, you have a good start if you are familiar with putting them together. They are quite simple. First, you will want the Blackhawk axiom stock. This stock has taken the sport by storm due to its great economics, price and incredible light weight. As far as receiver and bolt, you could go with a stock one, just polish the bolt for reliability. Or go with something like Tandemkross. All my insides are KIDD and they are super smooth. The stock trigger is rough. I love my KIDD. Its hands down the lightest and best reset that exists. There are other companies with reputable products. Some you can send an existing trigger assembly and they will do a trigger job. I love the KIDD stuff. A stock 10/22 will not make him happy. They simply are not competition reliable, and very rough to shoot as far as trigger, bolt, etc. There are some other choices out there, but these two are by far and large the best. If you want to go out of the box higher end, check out Magnum research's Switchbolt. Maybe just the upper for the axiom. Up to you. The orange one is a wilandusa barrel. Lightest made. Whole rifle is super light. Forget the weight, but its lower than pic below, that one is with the Tacsol barrel A while back with the 15-22
  10. It was just a cute way of saying detail is enhanced. You are putting a ton more technical/engineering type thinking on it that I. I would say the plates are definitely enhanced.
  11. wow. That’s a lot. Well, I can say my first impression was a feels like I could see around the plates. I dunno how to explain it. There’s nothing like them. I don’t recall seeing much background when I shoot.
  12. Sorry everyone. I get bored and my sense of humor is different than everyone else’s. What I think is funny others don’t usually appreciate. I’ll go back to my corner.
  13. it’s amazing the direction you fuddy duddies will take something to stroke your own egos. I mean, that’s why every time I check in here when I’m bored it’s the exact same names arguing the exact same things calling each other the exact same names, right? How about we just make it easy......I’ll say.....WHITE! Who’s gonna be the fastest to rush in and say black?? You chucky? Don’t let someone with a lower post count beat ya!
  14. you the man chuck. So he told you nothing about uspsa partnering with practiscore to keep track of match dues per club, huh. Well it must not be true then. I’m glad
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