The gun is new. They said they would throat it for me. The gun can load the Montana gold CMJ out to 1.180 and pass the plunk test. But the JHP will only pass the plunk test at 1.10. i did a max oal length test on them and it came out to 1.13 but they wont spin in the barrel during plunk test. i have to load them down to 1.10 to get them to spin.