jhr1986

Alg defense

Does the rifle currently have a free float handguard?

Where did you find the nordic barrel for $200? On sale I assume?

Please explain. I'm making this decision currently and would like to hear pros/cons on the options.

Thanks for the thoughts guys, I've made my choices. Short version: Nordic 18" barrel, AP or Carbon Arms handguard, and XLR buttstock I'm going with the Nordic barrel - I love accurate guns and I'd rather have better accuracy than needed rather than good enough. Faxon may fit that bill as well but there just aren't as many people out there saying their faxon 18" heavy fluted is sub-moa, and I realize that it most likely due to the number of faxon branded barrels in the 3 gun marketplace as opposed to the nordic. The faxon may be just as good but I'm going with the known quantity. Shout out to Nathan at Faxon though for making himself accessible and answering the questions I threw at him via another forum. Sticking with the AP handguard (and maybe even the Carbon Arms). Texas heat is a concern when the gun is almost too hot to pick up *before* the stage starts due to baking in the sun, so CF it is. If I decide to run any matches that require lasers/lights etc then those matches won't require long range shooting and therefore would be best suited to running a shorter gun anyway. So if that becomes an issue, I'll build a gun suited to those purposes. Decided on the XLR buttstock. For one, I'm not fully convinced just by looking at it that the Luth-AR is stout enough for me (maybe it is, I'm not here to bash the product, just my admittedly uneducated opinion). Also the heavier buttstock should help out balance out the heavier barrel.

This year is going to be my second full year of shooting 3 gun, and I've decided to build a dedicated rifle for matches. All I have right now is the stripped receiver set (aero precision gen ii), but my BCG (JP LMOS) is ordered and on the way. Before I get started with the questions, yes I know none of this will amount to any faster times so I suppose I'm interested in hearing about differences in quality or other advantages that one part may have over the other that isn't readily apparent. I'm going with an 18" barrel config for tac optics. The rifle I used last season (BCM w/ 16" elw and KMR) weighs in at ~7.5 pounds with my bobro mount and vortex strike eagle. I'd like the gun to be a little heavier, but I'm not trying to build a pig. In other words I'm not looking to build an ultra lightweight rifle, but I don't want unnecessary excess weight either. I am hung up on three major parts: barrel, handguard and buttstock and I've got it narrowed down to 2 choices within those categories. Barrels I'm looking at are the Nordic 18" and Faxon Firearms 18" heavy fluted: Nordic 18", you guys know all about this one so nothing more needs to be said. or http://faxonfirearms.com/18-heavy-fluted-5-56-nato-rifle-length-416-r-stainless-steel-qpq-black-nitride/ The Faxon is a few ounces lighter and has a gas port sized sized properly for a low mass bcg + fixed gas block (the port is spec'd slightly smaller than Nordic's). I'm not sure what to think about the QPQ treatment on a match barrel, but I've seen plenty of good reviews on their barrels, just not necessarily from 3 gunners who might demand more accuracy than average range shooters. Also has a 5.56 chamber as opposed to Nordic's 223 wylde, the wylde should be more accurate in theory. Price is a wash. I'll admit, I like accurate rifles and I'm leaning towards the Nordic due to it's proven accuracy track record but I could be swayed. The Faxon may (or may not) be less accurate but would no doubt be "accurate enough" for 3 gun (We do have some 400-600 yard shots at some of the local matches so every bit helps) Handguards in contention are the SLR solo ultralight M-Lock 16.5" or an AP customs Gen II ultralight Carbon fiber 17" SLR: http://slrrifleworks.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=66_106_137_71&product_id=440 AP: http://rhinoarms.com/product/gen-ii-ultra-light-series-tactical-carbon-fiber-handguard/ Those two weigh about the same, although I could go lighter with the AP if I dropped the top rail. I like the idea of being able to use offset sights or laser/light for night matches (which I've never been to) but I don't know if it is really necessary or a benefit. I imagine the carbon fiber would be less prone to getting hot which is a concern in TX, especially after a 30-40 round stage in the summer; not sure if the carbon fiber is grippy enough though. At this point the AP is where I'm leaning but the SLR gets good reviews, looks cool and has more options for mounting stuff. The buttstocks I'm considering are the Luth-AR MBA-3 and the XLR Industries Tactical Buttstock Luth-AR: http://www.luth-ar.com/product/mba-3-carbine-stock/ XLR: http://www.shoretactical.com/product_info.php/xlr-tactical-butt-stock-p-392 Really not sure which way to jump here. I had been planning on going with the XLR for quite some time until I recently saw the Luth and figured I should check it out. I doubt many here will have much experience with either of these but if you do, please speak up. The Luth-Ar is about 4.5 ounces lighter, but the XLR looks to be built like a brick shithouse which I also like. I would prefer whichever stock does not lose it's adjustment/loosen up with use. The reason I am looking at these two is that I prefer a shorter length of pull than what a rifle length stock can give me, and I need an adjustable comb for a scoped AR, I simply can't get a fast, repeatable cheek weld with a standard stock; when I press my cheek bone into the stock my eye is looking at the bottom of the scope. Thanks for reading my book.

Never seen one, doesn't mean they aren't out there though. Shouldn't be hard to do; got a buddy with a machine shop?

Is there a big difference? Yes. Will there be a big difference in your scores? Not likely.

Thanks for the opinions/advice guys. Went ahead and ordered the set.

You bring up a good point. Just so we are comparing apples to apples, the tubes I'm looking at at are the plain jane Briley Crio Plus extended and Carlson's Crio Plus Sporting Clays choke tubes.

Any thoughts on quality or consistency with these two brands? I've got a 24" M2 on the way and want to get some choke tubes for it. I bought the gun specifically for 3 gun so that is where it will be used 95% of the time; I can get a deal on the Carlson's but will spring the extra $$ for Brileys if there is a real difference in performance. Thinking SK, LM and IM if anyone cares or has thoughts on that as well.

Loaded some to 1.1 w/ TG, not accurate enough in my gun.

Mike, a few months ago I played around with this load at 1.145 because testing showed it to be as accurate as my 1.115 load. When I went to matches, I had a number of malfunctions (6-10 in that batch of 400 rounds) and suspected it was the longer oal since that was the only thing I changed. I have since gone back to my 1.115 standard and no more issues. Of course now I'm testing some 124s because they group a little better out of my factory barrel. I don't like the recoil impulse as well as the 147s but like the groups I get. Can't leave well enough alone.

Bladetech, wrs if you want retention for 3gun

What needs to be "rebuilt" or replaced in the JP triggers? What has been the mode of failure in your experience?