Catch22

Which length .223 JP's do you like to run pjb45?

This was where my apprehension came from on the 14.5 setup. I mean, who doesn't want to be able to change that one day with out taking it to a gunsmith. The shoot I did, we only shot one stage between 125-600. Absolutely, I should of been more clear, the JP-15 "Ready Rifle" is the one I am considering in the lengths mentioned, and they all come with their "Light Contour" barrel configuration. I wish I knew what distances in the future I would be shooting. If anyone in the South East Region, or Florida/Georgia area might chime in, then maybe I would get a better understanding of the distances I would be needing the rifle exclusively for. There is a Barrel UM Tactical is bringing out that might be changing things in the future. It's called R.A.G.E. INTEGRATED BARRELS. I had a chance to shoot one and the integrated break with adjustable bushings/baffles was really nice and worked excellently. I have heard some great things about the Stretch 16 barrels, and they seem to be working great for a couple of shooters I follow. I was going to run just the handguard with no attachments, and like Al503 stated above, if need be switch, to a carbon fiber one. A for the glass I think for the time being I will go with a the lighter Vortex 1-6 that runs I think about 16 ounces vs the nicer Viper which runs almost 25.2 Ounces. Indeed, when I fit people for shotgun's and they do not have the ability to swing the longer barrels since they aren't use to the gun. I add weight in the stock and it make the barrels more "whippy" then. I actually got through to JP Enterprises today. It did take a little time, but they were most helpful today. I have built some rifles with it but for some reason the overall weight wasn't showing up. That is what every one else has been saying about JP! And you were correct a bit tough to get them on the phone, but they made up for that in the time they took with me today.

I Appreciate the reply. I believe I am in agreeance with you. That is what I really think is the major draw back of the 18" and might be its Achilles heel for me. As I know that a heavy rifle or shotgun can not work for some people, and I am one of those people. That's why I was curious of actually weight numbers for the JP rifles. I would hate to spend the money and not like it and have to resell it to buy a different length rifle. I haven't seen any in my area, or it might be an easier decision. I thought 16" would be the way to go, but the shops I spoke with stated, they liked there 14.5 pinned better then the 16", as it was quicker for transitioning.

Hello, long time lurker, first time caller. After coming from competing in a Sporting Clays background, A friend asked me to shoot with him at our first 3 gun competition, in Altair Florida. Side note Altair, was a doozey but I fell in love with the sport. I borrowed all sorts of equipment, and now its time to buy a rifle. After seeing most people state, you can't beat a JP out of the Box, and most of our friends, buying a certain rifle then putting JP parts in it. I feel that this is the way I want to go. I am no where near a shop that carries these fine products, so I have done as much research as I can, searched on here and scoured Google, Youtube, other forums, etc. Most of the info for 3 gun rifles is from several years ago. Or about building a new 3 gun rifle. SO I figured I would ask you guys, your thoughts and opinions. This will be my first AR, so might as well do it right eh? I spoke with two Distributer's out of state, and still awaiting a call back from JP Enterprises on the matter. I am looking at a JP-15. The General consensus from the two distributer's is for Bay stages go with the 14.5 pinned, over the 16". And for anything 50 to 200 yard double taps are way more manageable with the 18" I do have to admit I am a bit nervous about the weight of a 18" And have been trying to find the weight of the JP-15 in all of the sizes mentioned above. I would like the rifle to be used for my wife and I, If I can convince her to make the shift as well. That is why I was told about the 14.5" But the woman distributor spoke about even her want for a 18" as she likes her 14.5 pinned, but like the flatness that the 18" shot with. The reason I am speaking of weight as well, is that after breaking my back and neck, the weight of my 9lb CG shotgun affects my back after a tournament of 100 clays. But if the felt recoil is less, on the 18" then it might be better then going with a 14.5 pinned. We shoot in Florida, and if I had more experience with the shoot's around here, maybe this would be an easier decision? Overall, if anyone has the weight numbers from a site I couldn't find, or their own rifles, that would be great, and also if anyone has the would of, should of, could of's about their first rifle purchase, I would like to learn from you. I like to "buy once, cry once". I appreciate it, Thanks again.