JodiH

With the magwells removed, both of those are legal for CO. Takedown levels are considered small external parts and lots of folks use that one on the right. I have never seen the larger one on the left, but there is no provision limiting the size of the replacement slide stop. Question, what holster are you using? Race holsters are not legal in CO. The holster must cover the slide up to 1/2" below the ejection port. I have seen kydex holsters that accommodate the one on the right. Also remember that CO is the width of the overlay (2 1/8") for the distance of the grips from the outside surface of the belt. Open and LO use the length of the overlay (3 3/8"), so the pistol will need to be closer to your belt than the race divisions.

NROI doesn't require chamber flags be inserted in the barrel because many folks are worried the plastic will melt in the hot barrel. We just require something to not allow the bolt to completely close and is visible externally. My rimfire chamber flag works best inserted into the barrel, but the one I have for my PCC doesn't go into the barrel it just is a spacer between the bolt and chamber held in place by pressure of the bolt.

PCCs must pull the trigger to prove the gun is unloaded, just like other centerfire divisions. And yes we realize inserting the flag causes the trigger to reset, but the PCC has already been proven clear with the previous trigger pull and the chamber flag that is inserted after thay serves as an indicator.

Basically it's centerfire versus rimfire. Dry firing a centerfire to confirm it's clear does not damage the firearm because the firing pin hits empty space. While rimfire guns have a firing pin that hits the rim of the cartridge and as a result strike the outside edge of the chamber when dry fired. So the rules don't require it for rimfire because it can damage the gun. If you want requirements as to what is a chamber flag or not, please let the BOD and Zack Jones know. I agree that a piece of trimmer line isn't the best, especially when there are a ton of chamber flags available and some don't go in the barrel but still hold the bolt back, but we don't mandate how a chamber flag is built in the current rules.

The behind the hip bone requirement for all divisions was eliminated awhile ago and holsters have to cover the slide up to 1/2 inch below the ejection port.

Okay, when referring to 10.1.13 you mean 10.3.13. Similar language is in the USPSA rules for PCCs. And it was originally taken from MG where it's very common for folks to have long gun vaults in their vehicles. Which is why we have this language in 1.1 #1 - Rimfire rifles and PCC must have chamber and magazine well empty and bolt closed on a flag and be cased or secured in a cart. Between this and the statement in 10.3.13, it is fine to take a flagged long gun from a car and put it directly on a cart. We don't see much of this in SCSA or even USPSA competition matches, but it is allowed. 8.1.7 - Normally long guns shooters can uncase at the berm or safety area or staging area. Some have tables for uncasing/casing, other don't. It isn't required to have a staging area, but is nice. The berm language was added because there are some ranges that have shallow bays and not a lot of side berm for shooters to uncase/case at. If that is the case, then the match should designate a staging area (if they have room) and let folks know they can't uncase/case anywhere at the berm. Or if space is really short, tell competitors that they can only uncase/case at the line or safety area if they don't have room for a staging area.

That wouldn't be penalized. It's only creeping if they are moving at the same time the button is pressed. And the beep is actually 0.3 seconds long (we know that for one of the scoring systems in USPSA). So if at the exact moment the RO is pressing the button, the competitor is moving, then it's creeping. Like I have said before, extremely rare and not often called. FWIW, creeping versus false start will be covered extensively in the new SCSA RO class that will be rolled out in the next few months. And I did inquire about the "consistent cadence" rule and was told that before USPSA acquired SCSA, that a consistent cadence was common practice for some clubs and not others since it was not spelled out in the rules. So it was decided to formalize it in the rules. Every year we do a rules audit and a majority of the changes are based on member feedback. If this is something that folks want changed, I would reach out to Zack Jones and let him know so he can talk it over with the Steel Challenge committee.

Interesting. I did not know that. I will ask around and find out!

Like I said before, it almost always is a false start. Creeping is when the competitor happens to start moving the same time the RO presses the button (due to human reaction time, most movement happens at end of beep or after). If the RO sees movement before, then it's stop and start over. If the RO is not 100% sure the movement was creeping, then don't call it (as with all our other calls). We (Zack Jones and NROI) are open to member comments/suggestions on this. And yes, the same cadence for each string that we teach encourages folks to try and jump the timer. That's why a random cadence would be better, but that is not how the SCSA rules are written.

We have talked about DNF and after some testing in PractiScore decided that wasn't the best way to do things (see this post for details: https://nroi.org/q-of-month-results/dnf-or-30-seconds/). I now realize that we didn't address the outcome of that discussion (30 seconds) in the most recent rules update. I will add it to the list for next time. The classification system is not part of the rules. Even in the USPSA Competition rules we have removed all the details about the classification system from the rulebook and just refer to a page on the USPSA website. This was done because we had the information in multiple places and updates didn't occur everywhere. So now classification system information is only available on the respective websites.

We fixed the definitions of creeping and false start in the SCSA rules to mirror the definitions used in USPSA. Basically any movement before the beep is a false start and it's a stop and restart. Creeping is when the competitor moves at the same time as the beep, which hardly happens. 99% of the time it's a false start. The RO should not start the timer if the competitor is moving, but very occasionally the competitor starts moving right as the RO presses the button. That would be creeping. Before the button press, then it's a false start.

Yes, 8.2 describes the Competitor Ready Position, and you have listed the 2 subrules, but notice that 8.2.1 talks about firearm preparation and 8.2.2 talks about start position and that reshoots are only for an incorrect start position. Not a firearm condition. This situation was a question of the month on the NROI blog and here is the post that explains it and how it is taught by NROI: https://nroi.org/q-of-month-results/hammer-time/

Yeah, like Chuck said it depends on if the safety was on or not. If no safety, it's a DQ. And assuming Production or Carry Optics, it also depends if he had the hammer back, safety on, at the start signal. It would not be something the RO should correct nor an incorrect start position. If the shooter corrected himself before the start signal and lowered the hammer and was compliant at the start signal, no problem. If the shooter started hammer back, safety on then he has violated the special conditions of Prod/CO and would be bumped to Open per 6.2.5.1.

That is something you need to take to the Board. The classification system isn't a rules thing, it's a HQ thing. The previous president was asked often about uncoupling PCC and handgun classifications but said there wasn't data to support the change. I know a few people who are only A-class handgun shooters and GM in PCC and would like it to be changed. Maybe there is enough data for the BOD to consider changing it now.

Actually the info is on the webpage (https://uspsa.org/pages/about/classification) under the 'C' flag definition: "Scores that are more than one class below the member's highest classification in any other division are flagged with "C." For example, if a member with an ‘A’ classification in Open division submits a C-class score in Limited division, the score will be assigned a "C" flag. An exception to this is if the member has not established a classification in a division. If a member is not classified in a division, all scores higher than 2 percent will be entered in that division until a classification is earned. However, if the resulting classification is more than one class below the other division’s classification, the member will be automatically moved to the classification bracket that is one class below the other division."